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Title: Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: zorkpolitics on June 22, 2004, 08:02:22 PM What state has voted with the winner the most since 1900?
What state ha svoted for a loser the most? Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: MHS2002 on June 22, 2004, 08:05:17 PM Hmm...I don't have much to do so I will try and figure it out.
Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: © tweed on June 22, 2004, 08:10:10 PM Missouri has voted for the winner since 1956 or something like that
Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: Fritz on June 22, 2004, 08:13:12 PM Missuori voted for the winner *every time* in the 20th century, with the one exception of 1956.
Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: Keystone Phil on June 22, 2004, 08:35:59 PM Yeah I believe Missouri went for the winner in every election since 1896 with the exception of 1956 (went for Stevenson) The question is, which state went for the losing candidate the most???
Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: zachman on June 22, 2004, 08:44:39 PM Yeah I believe Missouri went for the winner in every election since 1896 with the exception of 1956 (went for Stevenson) The question is, which state went for the losing candidate the most??? Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: zorkpolitics on June 22, 2004, 08:57:52 PM Missuori voted for the winner *every time* in the 20th century, with the one exception of 1956. MO is an interesting state, it rarely was carried by more than a few % and the one time it didn't go for the winner in 1956 Eisenhower lost MO by only .2%!. Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: MHS2002 on June 22, 2004, 09:05:34 PM Since 1900, Missouri and Ohio have each voted for the winning President 24 of 26 times.
Missouri: "wrong" in 1900 and 1956. Ohio: "wrong" in 1944 and 1960. Mississippi is the worst state. It voted for the winning President 12 out of 26 times. I'll get a full breakdown up in a few. Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: Manuntius on June 22, 2004, 09:15:57 PM Being from Tennessee I know we have gone in the winners column 21 of the last 23 elections, so I feel it is a good bellweather state. The only times it hasn't been carried by the winner since Williams Jennings Bryan last carried it was 1924 (John Davis) and 1960 (Richard Nixon). I felt is was under stated in 2000 that if Al Gore had carried his home state of TN it wouldn't have matted who carried Florida, he would be President. I know in the past some candidates have not carried their home state but usually in an election where they were whipped badly (i.e., McGovern, Alf Landon). I don't think there is any other time when the home state denied the favorite son the presidency.
On the subject of carried the least, I would have guessed maybe Mississippi too. Both my parents were born there, and I always found it bizzare that in 3 out of 6 elections (1948 to 1968) Mississippi went for neither the Republican or Democrat. That is about as far out in the political wilderness as a state can get. Two other trivia notes about Tennessee; in the five Presidential elections where Whigs got electoral votes (1836-1852) Tennessee went for the Whigs every time, along with Kentucky and Vermont. I don't know why they were such a bastion of Whigism. Also, Tennesse was the first state to break with the Solid South, in 1920, going for Harding. It was the first time since Reconstruction, 10 straight elections, that all eleven confederate states did not go Democratic. Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: MHS2002 on June 22, 2004, 09:28:13 PM Since 1900:
24: Missouri Ohio 23: Nevada 22: California Delaware Illinois Maryland Montana New Jersey 21: Idaho New Hampshire New Mexico (beginning in 1912) New York Tennessee Utah West Virginia Wyoming 20: Connecticut Massachusetts Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island Washington Wisconsin 19: Arizona (beginning in 1912) Colorado Florida Iowa Kansas Kentucky Michigan Minnesota North Dakota Oklahoma (beginning in 1908) 18: Indiana Nebraska Texas 17: Arkansas North Carolina South Dakota Virginia 16: Louisiana Maine 15: Georgia Vermont 14: South Carolina 13: Alabama 12: Mississippi 7: Alaska (beginning in 1960) Hawaii (beginning in 1960) 4: Washington, D.C. (beginning in 1968) Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: OldTexas on June 22, 2004, 10:07:34 PM Ominous sign, Kerry is leading in Mississippi in the straw poll. :) Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on July 01, 2004, 05:31:24 AM Mississippi and Vermont seem to be big losers.
Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: TheWildCard on July 01, 2004, 06:34:46 AM Another interesting fact I've found is the person who has won atleast 3 out of these 5 states
Arkansas, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, and Louisiana has won the election since 1900. Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: minionofmidas on July 01, 2004, 10:22:18 AM Being from Tennessee I know we have gone in the winners column 21 of the last 23 elections, so I feel it is a good bellweather state. The only times it hasn't been carried by the winner since Williams Jennings Bryan last carried it was 1924 (John Davis) and 1960 (Richard Nixon). I felt is was under stated in 2000 that if Al Gore had carried his home state of TN it wouldn't have matted who carried Florida, he would be President. I know in the past some candidates have not carried their home state but usually in an election where they were whipped badly (i.e., McGovern, Alf Landon). I don't think there is any other time when the home state denied the favorite son the presidency. Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: Nym90 on July 03, 2004, 09:44:57 AM Another interesting fact I've found is the person who has won atleast 3 out of these 5 states Arkansas, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, and Louisiana has won the election since 1900. Yes, I've heard of this theory too. These 5 states are sometimes called the "Baker's Man" as they sort of look like a profile of a baker. Minnesota is his hat, Iowa his face, Missouri his belly, Arkansas his legs, and Louisiana his feet. :) It's also not surprising, since all 5 are at least modestly swing states. Title: Re:Winningest state? Loser state? Post by: Nym90 on July 03, 2004, 09:47:28 AM Being from Tennessee I know we have gone in the winners column 21 of the last 23 elections, so I feel it is a good bellweather state. The only times it hasn't been carried by the winner since Williams Jennings Bryan last carried it was 1924 (John Davis) and 1960 (Richard Nixon). I felt is was under stated in 2000 that if Al Gore had carried his home state of TN it wouldn't have matted who carried Florida, he would be President. I know in the past some candidates have not carried their home state but usually in an election where they were whipped badly (i.e., McGovern, Alf Landon). I don't think there is any other time when the home state denied the favorite son the presidency. On the subject of carried the least, I would have guessed maybe Mississippi too. Both my parents were born there, and I always found it bizzare that in 3 out of 6 elections (1948 to 1968) Mississippi went for neither the Republican or Democrat. That is about as far out in the political wilderness as a state can get. Two other trivia notes about Tennessee; in the five Presidential elections where Whigs got electoral votes (1836-1852) Tennessee went for the Whigs every time, along with Kentucky and Vermont. I don't know why they were such a bastion of Whigism. Also, Tennesse was the first state to break with the Solid South, in 1920, going for Harding. It was the first time since Reconstruction, 10 straight elections, that all eleven confederate states did not go Democratic. Actually, in 1888, Cleveland lost his home state of New York, which if he had won it, would have won him the election. He also won the popular vote and lost the electoral, so there was quite a bit of symmetry between Cleveland and Gore. Another person similar to Gore in this regard is James Polk, who, like Gore, was from Tennessee and won the nationwide popular vote, but lost Tennessee. |