Talk Elections

Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley or Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis?

I think Hawley, he has no racial record with black and Latino voters.

I think the post-GOP Trump will have to connect with minorities to make the Democrats compete for black and brown votes, Hawley seems inoffensive, to me.

The "monkey" comment still rubs the wrong way and will be brought up if DeSantis runs in the future.

Look at George Allen, he is finished because of that.

Two of my personal favorites. It's a tossup for my vote, I love them both.

I think DeSantis has a better shot at the nom, honestly.

Desantis

The difference is that Allen ran before Trump, so him making the macaca comment was a bigger deal. Nowadays, voters are used to Trump saying outrageous things, so DeSantis' monkey comment seems mild in comparison. After all, it's not like that comment stopped DeSantis from getting elected, and I highly doubt it will sink his inevitable presidential bid.

Of the two choices presented, DeSantis.

I still think that it'll be Pence, though.

DeSantis.  Only person with a better chance of getting the 2024 nom is Pence.

DeSantis seems to be doing well as the governor of the largest swing state.

Hawley is definitely leaning in more to the identity politics side of conservatism, and DeSantis believes in climate change. So Hawley would be more likely to get the nomination

That's what I am thinking. DeSantis would be a great running mate, though and someone who would be great afterwards, too. There's a lot of possibilities for him.

He can run himself and become president in 2024.
He can run as Pence's running mate in 2024.
He can wait until 2028 or eventually succeed Scott or Rubio in the senate if they run for President.
The meme of course is that Florida Republicans are as bad at national politics as Florida Democrats are at state politics.

I don’t think the monkey comment damages DeSantis hawley Desanties is my dream 2024 ticket or the other way around

DeSantis easily. Hawley’s Senate seat will be up in 2024. DeSantis’s governorship won’t be. Of course if Rick Scott retires/runs for POTUS that year that’ll create a dilemma. Without Scott he is their best hope at retaining the seat. In fact he may have a better chance of winning the open seat than Scott does of being re-elected. Also if Rubio is somehow no longer in the senate by then he could make a comeback for the other seat.

Ron DeSantis, because Hawley probably will run for reelection

I don’t think Rubio is going anywhere. He wants to be in Washington. He could run in 2024 or 2026 for Governor.

I think DeSantis probably has a better chance than Scott at becoming president. Scott is 60 and DeSantis is 40. DeSantis has to deal with saying stupid sh**t. Biden and Obama said stupid sh**t. Scott has to deal with allegations of corruption but that hasn’t stopped him yet. Maybe Scott will be tougher because he has had to deal with bigger scandals. They both come from upper class colleges. Presidents and justices has exclusively come from them since Reagan. Pence or even Biden have come from Middle Class schools. That’s almost a reason to root for them.

I think Hawley is slightly more likely than DeSantis, though I think he would wait until 2028.

Between these two, DeSantis

Ronnie