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Title: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: phk on August 14, 2005, 04:54:20 PM
Is Arnold a RINO?


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Ben. on August 14, 2005, 05:18:29 PM
Fiscally he's pretty conservative, socially pretty liberal...

I’d say fiscally he’s on a par with McCain, socially he’s more like Giuliani, defiantly a republican we’re not talking about Lincoln Chafee here :)

Then again I tend to think terms such as RINO and DINO are conjured up by extremists in both parties simply to denigrate other schools of thought within their respective political parties, be it the club for growth or one of the wackier liberal groupings.       


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Notre Dame rules! on August 14, 2005, 05:28:49 PM
probably, but he's about the best the CA GOP can hope for.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on August 14, 2005, 08:29:44 PM
No, he's typical Republican: right wing economically, cheats on his wife, an asshole, sounds like a ing moron.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Frodo on August 14, 2005, 08:31:26 PM
probably, but he's about the best the CA GOP can hope for.

What about Richard Riordan?  


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: A18 on August 14, 2005, 08:32:41 PM
No, he's typical Republican: ... cheats on his wife ...

Um, FDR, JFK, Clinton...


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: CheeseWhiz on August 14, 2005, 08:38:49 PM
I stand by this statement I made earlier today

The Democratic Party and the Republican Party are only names, they have nothing to do with your political views, so everyone is either a RINO or a DINO, (or a third party/independent, of course.)


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: dazzleman on August 14, 2005, 09:04:52 PM
No, he's typical Republican: right wing economically, cheats on his wife, an asshole, sounds like a ing moron.

You have such a sunny view of life.  It's great to see that you have such moral outrage against men who cheat on their wives.  And of course, Democrats don't ever do that.  I guess Roosvelt, Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton were all Republicans.  Since in your world they're all very right wing, I guess they might as well have been.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: A18 on August 14, 2005, 09:14:34 PM
When's the last time a Republican president cheated on his wife, anyway? Like, Warren Harding?


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: PBrunsel on August 14, 2005, 09:21:35 PM
When's the last time a Republican president cheated on his wife, anyway? Like, Warren Harding?

There was a rumor that Dwight Eisenhwer cheated on hsi wife durring WWII with his driver, Kit Downard.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: dazzleman on August 14, 2005, 09:31:10 PM
When's the last time a Republican president cheated on his wife, anyway? Like, Warren Harding?

There was a rumor that Dwight Eisenhwer cheated on hsi wife durring WWII with his driver, Kit Downard.

Aren't you talking about Kay Summersby?


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Alcon on August 14, 2005, 09:31:20 PM
When's the last time a Republican president cheated on his wife, anyway? Like, Warren Harding?

There was a rumor that Dwight Eisenhwer cheated on hsi wife durring WWII with his driver, Kit Downard.

I can't find any references on Google to Kit Downard.  Are you sure that was the name?  I'd be interested in looking that up sometime, possibly.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: dazzleman on August 14, 2005, 09:40:12 PM
When's the last time a Republican president cheated on his wife, anyway? Like, Warren Harding?

There was a rumor that Dwight Eisenhwer cheated on hsi wife durring WWII with his driver, Kit Downard.

I can't find any references on Google to Kit Downard.  Are you sure that was the name?  I'd be interested in looking that up sometime, possibly.

I think the name is Kay Summersby.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Alcon on August 14, 2005, 09:41:06 PM
When's the last time a Republican president cheated on his wife, anyway? Like, Warren Harding?

There was a rumor that Dwight Eisenhwer cheated on hsi wife durring WWII with his driver, Kit Downard.

I can't find any references on Google to Kit Downard.  Are you sure that was the name?  I'd be interested in looking that up sometime, possibly.

I think the name is Kay Summersby.

That gives results, but Kit sounds like a male name and I assume that a driver would be a primarily male occupation, especially back then.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: dazzleman on August 14, 2005, 09:45:14 PM

That gives results, but Kit sounds like a male name and I assume that a driver would be a primarily male occupation, especially back then.

Kit could be short for Katherine, or something like that, but I think Philip just had the name wrong.  I'm almost sure it's Kay Summersby.

It was alleged that Ike had a long-running affair with her while he was away from Mamie for an extended time during the War in Europe.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: danwxman on August 14, 2005, 11:47:30 PM
I know of some rumors surrounding George H.W. Bush from a few sources in the DC area....but I can't say for sure if they are true.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: ian on August 15, 2005, 02:30:41 PM
No.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Virginian87 on August 15, 2005, 02:39:20 PM
He couldn't be really conservative socially.  This is California we're talking about here.  The Golden State does vote for fiscal conservatives though, with Sen. Feinstein has an example.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Alcon on August 15, 2005, 02:42:56 PM
He couldn't be really conservative socially.  This is California we're talking about here.  The Golden State does vote for fiscal conservatives though, with Sen. Feinstein has an example.

I'm not sure I'd call Feinstein a fiscal conservative...


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Virginian87 on August 15, 2005, 02:47:30 PM
He couldn't be really conservative socially.  This is California we're talking about here.  The Golden State does vote for fiscal conservatives though, with Sen. Feinstein has an example.

I'm not sure I'd call Feinstein a fiscal conservative...

Probably not in relation to some Republicans, but didn't she vote for CAFTA?


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Alcon on August 15, 2005, 02:54:22 PM
He couldn't be really conservative socially.  This is California we're talking about here.  The Golden State does vote for fiscal conservatives though, with Sen. Feinstein has an example.

I'm not sure I'd call Feinstein a fiscal conservative...

Probably not in relation to some Republicans, but didn't she vote for CAFTA?

Yes, but the National Taxpayer's Union gives her a poor rating.  The same with my representative - voted for CAFTA but isn't really economically conservative.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Virginian87 on August 15, 2005, 02:57:53 PM
He couldn't be really conservative socially.  This is California we're talking about here.  The Golden State does vote for fiscal conservatives though, with Sen. Feinstein has an example.

I'm not sure I'd call Feinstein a fiscal conservative...

Probably not in relation to some Republicans, but didn't she vote for CAFTA?

Yes, but the National Taxpayer's Union gives her a poor rating.  The same with my representative - voted for CAFTA but isn't really economically conservative.

Ooo.  Didn't see that rating.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Lincoln Republican on August 15, 2005, 05:49:11 PM
Whatever Arnold is or isn't, he's not qualified for the office of Governor.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Virginian87 on August 15, 2005, 06:05:23 PM
Whatever Arnold is of isn't, he's not qualified for the office of Governor.

Very true. 


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: A18 on August 15, 2005, 06:06:56 PM

That gives results, but Kit sounds like a male name and I assume that a driver would be a primarily male occupation, especially back then.

Kit could be short for Katherine, or something like that, but I think Philip just had the name wrong. I'm almost sure it's Kay Summersby.

It was alleged that Ike had a long-running affair with her while he was away from Mamie for an extended time during the War in Europe.

I didn't post a name.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Giant Saguaro on August 15, 2005, 10:14:49 PM
I think he's got a streak of older school, Nixon/Ford era type Republican. I think he's conservative economically and fiscally but maybe a tad to the left of McCain on social issues. Not real sure though - he hasn't been in long and he's dealing with very left of center people, so it might be hard to tell.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: skybridge on August 16, 2005, 04:38:12 AM
No, he isn't at all.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: RJ on August 17, 2005, 09:34:39 PM
No, he's typical Republican: ... cheats on his wife ...

Um, FDR, JFK, Clinton...

You forgot Wilson.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: ian on August 18, 2005, 07:38:41 PM
Whatever Arnold is or isn't, he's not qualified for the office of Governor.

Agreed.  I miss Gray Davis...  :(


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: Hitchabrut on August 22, 2005, 03:54:38 PM
No, he's typical Republican: ... cheats on his wife ...

Um, FDR, JFK, Clinton...

JFK was about 5 years off opebo when he had an affair with a 17-year-old girl.


Title: Re: Is Arnold a RINO?
Post by: The Duke on August 22, 2005, 08:57:15 PM
Whatever Arnold is or isn't, he's not qualified for the office of Governor.

Agreed.  I miss Gray Davis...  :(

That's interesting, because no one in California does.  We like having electricity.  And we like our deficit being 1/3rd the size it was two years ago.