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Title: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: Storebought on July 30, 2005, 06:09:13 PM
Looks like someone's trying to pull a casey:

From the Chicago Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-gold30.html)

Ignoring the bias of the article ("..right-wing US senator.."), if he is a credible candidate, then the GOP should run with him. Napolitano has been a real queen lately and it's time the GOP takes her down a peg or four.



Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: PADem on July 30, 2005, 06:48:13 PM
Looks like someone's trying to pull a casey:

From the Chicago Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-gold30.html)

Ignoring the bias of the article ("..right-wing US senator.."), if he is a credible candidate, then the GOP should run with him. Napolitano has been a real queen lately and it's time the GOP takes her down a peg or four.



How is that bias? Any republican will tell you that Goldwater was right wing and proudly so.


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: Cashcow on July 30, 2005, 07:41:41 PM
Looks like someone's trying to pull a casey:

From the Chicago Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-gold30.html)

Ignoring the bias of the article ("..right-wing US senator.."), if he is a credible candidate, then the GOP should run with him. Napolitano has been a real queen lately and it's time the GOP takes her down a peg or four.



How is that bias? Any republican will tell you that Goldwater was right wing and proudly so.

Goldwater was clearly a far-left socialist, along the lines of Rick Santorum. Note the article's abhorrent liberal bias.


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: Storebought on July 30, 2005, 07:48:48 PM
Looks like someone's trying to pull a casey:

From the Chicago Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-gold30.html)

Ignoring the bias of the article ("..right-wing US senator.."), if he is a credible candidate, then the GOP should run with him. Napolitano has been a real queen lately and it's time the GOP takes her down a peg or four.



How is that bias? Any republican will tell you that Goldwater was right wing and proudly so.

The bias lies in the fact that the reporter felt the need to label the Republican as a "scary" right winger, and not label the Democratic governor in the same fashion (ex. "Napolitano, the liberal incumbent governor...").

And that's not even the thrust of my post: Goldwater clearly is running on his dad's name, like Casey in PA clearly is.


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: PADem on July 30, 2005, 08:39:32 PM
Looks like someone's trying to pull a casey:

From the Chicago Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-gold30.html)

Ignoring the bias of the article ("..right-wing US senator.."), if he is a credible candidate, then the GOP should run with him. Napolitano has been a real queen lately and it's time the GOP takes her down a peg or four.



How is that bias? Any republican will tell you that Goldwater was right wing and proudly so.

The bias lies in the fact that the reporter felt the need to label the Republican as a "scary" right winger, and not label the Democratic governor in the same fashion (ex. "Napolitano, the liberal incumbent governor...").

And that's not even the thrust of my post: Goldwater clearly is running on his dad's name, like Casey in PA clearly is.

So what did President Bush Jnr do?


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: M on July 31, 2005, 08:14:54 AM
Looks like someone's trying to pull a casey:

From the Chicago Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-gold30.html)

Ignoring the bias of the article ("..right-wing US senator.."), if he is a credible candidate, then the GOP should run with him. Napolitano has been a real queen lately and it's time the GOP takes her down a peg or four.



How is that bias? Any republican will tell you that Goldwater was right wing and proudly so.

The bias lies in the fact that the reporter felt the need to label the Republican as a "scary" right winger, and not label the Democratic governor in the same fashion (ex. "Napolitano, the liberal incumbent governor...").

And that's not even the thrust of my post: Goldwater clearly is running on his dad's name, like Casey in PA clearly is.

So what did President Bush Jnr do?

Sorry? Neither George Herbert Walker Bush (41) nor George Walker Bush (43) have a namesake son, so there could not possibly be such a person as President Bush Jr.

Goldwater states in his book "Why Not Victory?" something along the lines of "when I got to Washington, they called me a conservative and though that would be the death of me. When I hung around, they started calling me arch-conservative. When they remove the hyphen, I'll have won."

Googling "arch conservative", it looks like the Goldwater revolution has been victorious.


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: A18 on July 31, 2005, 09:03:40 AM
If he wins, he should run for McCain's seat in 2010 instead of seeking re-election.


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on July 31, 2005, 09:17:45 AM
Looks like someone's trying to pull a casey:

From the Chicago Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-gold30.html)

Ignoring the bias of the article ("..right-wing US senator.."), if he is a credible candidate, then the GOP should run with him. Napolitano has been a real queen lately and it's time the GOP takes her down a peg or four.



Don probably won't run once he experiences the cold water that is being thrown on him.


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: Alcon on July 31, 2005, 09:45:41 AM
This guy will always be, for better or for worse, Goldwater's nephew.  If he can't escape that label - which chances are he can't - I cannot see him even pulling 45% (Arizonians and interested parties, correct me freely if I'm wrong).


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on July 31, 2005, 09:50:31 AM
He's unliklely to ever run.

He lacks the experience and personality to withstand the rigors of a run for Govenor.


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: WalterMitty on July 31, 2005, 10:45:59 AM
He's unliklely to ever run.

He lacks the experience and personality to withstand the rigors of a run for Govenor.

carlhayden, i assume oyu support your fellow democrat in this race?  :)


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on July 31, 2005, 10:55:26 AM
He's unliklely to ever run.

He lacks the experience and personality to withstand the rigors of a run for Govenor.

carlhayden, i assume oyu support your fellow democrat in this race?  :)

I advised her people on certain matters within my expertise in 2002.

I'm a little miffed about her veto of a CCW law.


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: King on August 01, 2005, 11:57:05 AM
This guy will always be, for better or for worse, Goldwater's nephew.  If he can't escape that label - which chances are he can't - I cannot see him even pulling 45% (Arizonians and interested parties, correct me freely if I'm wrong).

Arizona stood by Barry Goldwater until his death.  I can't see the Goldwater name as hurting him in that state.


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: Alcon on August 01, 2005, 12:48:47 PM
This guy will always be, for better or for worse, Goldwater's nephew.  If he can't escape that label - which chances are he can't - I cannot see him even pulling 45% (Arizonians and interested parties, correct me freely if I'm wrong).

Arizona stood by Barry Goldwater until his death.  I can't see the Goldwater name as hurting him in that state.

It's not that Goldwater is a bad name to have, it's just that he is not politically significant by himself - it's like nepotism from beyond the grave.


Title: Re: Goldwater's Nephew to Run for AZ Governor
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on August 01, 2005, 10:16:50 PM
This guy will always be, for better or for worse, Goldwater's nephew.  If he can't escape that label - which chances are he can't - I cannot see him even pulling 45% (Arizonians and interested parties, correct me freely if I'm wrong).

Arizona stood by Barry Goldwater until his death.  I can't see the Goldwater name as hurting him in that state.

It's not that Goldwater is a bad name to have, it's just that he is not politically significant by himself - it's like nepotism from beyond the grave.

Exactly!