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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Devils30 on February 25, 2016, 01:51:16 PM



Title: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Devils30 on February 25, 2016, 01:51:16 PM
http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/20160225/poll-wv-prefers-gop-for-president-democrat-for-governor


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: IceSpear on February 25, 2016, 01:56:20 PM
lolz. Mega thrashing!

Remember in 2013 when Hillary was supposed to be competitive in WV against presumptive nominee Christie, which could help make up for her possible loss in NJ?


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 25, 2016, 02:17:37 PM
TRUMP (R): 61%
Clinton (D): 24%

Generic R: 63%
Clinton (D): 21%

http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/20160225/poll-wv-prefers-gop-for-president-democrat-for-governor


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 25, 2016, 02:38:17 PM
B-b-b-but Atlas Democrats told me that WV would be competitive without a black man on the ballot!!!1

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=166588.0


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Phony Moderate on February 25, 2016, 02:40:10 PM
TRUMP is a great fit for the state.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Holmes on February 25, 2016, 02:40:19 PM
I buy it.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: MIKESOWELL on February 25, 2016, 02:52:11 PM
So not only are West Virginians racist, they are sexist as well?


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 25, 2016, 03:01:37 PM
Didn't Hillary run well here in 2008? Maybe WV just didn't like John McCain


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: pbrower2a on February 25, 2016, 03:03:30 PM
The once-powerful United Mine Workers union long established a progressive streak in West Virginia politics. That is over. West Virginia has just become Religion and cultural values may be all that is left to define political life in West Virginia.

So not only are West Virginians racist, they are sexist as well?
So not only are West Virginians racist, they are sexist as well?

By this reasoning, should Bernie Sanders lose West Virginia, the state is antisemitic as well.

No -- simply a state with even less support of progressive causes than Alabama (blacks) or Utah (non-Mormons).





Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: RR1997 on February 25, 2016, 03:04:21 PM
You guys have to remember that Trump is the perfect candidate for this state. The political views of the typical West Virginian match the political views of Donald Trump. WV is the epitome of a right-wing populist state. Hillary is going to do so bad here. Trump might actually do better than Romney here (despite doing worse than Romney nationwide).


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Asian Nazi on February 25, 2016, 03:05:06 PM
lolz. Mega thrashing!

Remember in 2013 when Hillary was supposed to be competitive in WV against presumptive nominee Christie, which could help make up for her possible loss in NJ?

Yeah, and we got laughed at for insinuating otherwise.

Shows how absurd Atlas #analysis is.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: RR1997 on February 25, 2016, 03:06:40 PM
B-b-b-but Atlas Democrats told me that WV would be competitive without a black man on the ballot!!!1

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=166588.0

Hillary would do well in this state if Christie were the nominee (like everyone thought he'd be back in 2013), but now TRUMP is running. Trump is the perfect fit for WV. WV is the epitome of a right-wing populist state. This might be one of Trump's best states.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 25, 2016, 03:13:17 PM
Hillary would do well in this state if Christie were the nominee (like everyone thought he'd be back in 2013), but now TRUMP is running. Trump is the perfect fit for WV. WV is the epitome of a right-wing populist state. This might be one of Trump's best states.

You guys have to remember that Trump is the perfect candidate for this state.

A generic R leads her by even more than Trump.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Skye on February 25, 2016, 03:21:41 PM
B-b-b-but Atlas Democrats told me that WV would be competitive without a black man on the ballot!!!1

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=166588.0
Ah, back then Shelley Moore Capito hadn't proven them wrong.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: RFayette on February 25, 2016, 04:10:09 PM
But the important question is, how do the *biggest cities* in West Virginia vote?  /Bandit


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: windjammer on February 25, 2016, 04:23:35 PM
You guys have to remember that Trump is the perfect candidate for this state. The political views of the typical West Virginian match the political views of Donald Trump. WV is the epitome of a right-wing populist state. Hillary is going to do so bad here. Trump might actually do better than Romney here (despite doing worse than Romney nationwide).
^^^^


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Devils30 on February 25, 2016, 04:33:34 PM
WV might be Trump's best state in the country. UT, ID will slip as many Mormons have high education levels and see right through Trump's circus.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Obama-Biden Democrat on February 25, 2016, 05:34:04 PM
Just 20 years ago in 1996, WV was a solid Democratic state and Virginia was solid Republican. My god you would have been laughed out of the room in the 1990's for predicting Virginia would vote for a black guy with a middle Hussein, and WV would vote against a Democrat who won by 7.5 points nationally.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: pbrower2a on February 25, 2016, 05:43:54 PM
WV might be Trump's best state in the country. UT, ID will slip as many Mormons have high education levels and see right through Trump's circus.
.

Also: investments in gambling casinos (dens of iniquity -- lots of smoking and drinking as well as gambling, all  un-Mormon; and multiple divorces. Can a right-wing Republican violate Mormon sensibilities sensibilities and lose in Utah? Sure.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 25, 2016, 06:24:50 PM
Obviously Bernie would do a lot better than Hillary here but still lose.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 25, 2016, 06:27:58 PM
High energy state. I'm glad my family is from the literal heart (not kidding-my grandma's childhood home is across the street from the geographical center of WV) of this wild and wonderful place. Country Roads, take me home!


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Xing on February 25, 2016, 06:31:28 PM
Congratulations, President Trump. Obviously Clinton can't win without WV.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: IceSpear on February 25, 2016, 06:32:45 PM
Hopefully if Hillary becomes president she takes the extremely high energy position of moving all nuclear waste from Nevada to West Virginia.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on February 25, 2016, 06:39:45 PM
Hopefully if Hillary becomes president she takes the extremely high energy position of moving all nuclear waste from Nevada to West Virginia.

Bad news for Hillary. This means she's likely going to get destroyed in SE OH/SW PA.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: DINGO Joe on February 25, 2016, 06:45:31 PM
Hopefully if Hillary becomes president she takes the extremely high energy position of moving all nuclear waste from Nevada to West Virginia.

Bad news for Hillary. This means she's likely going to get destroyed in SE OH/SW PA.

You mean where they are pumping all the Natural Gas out that is destroying coal?


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: IceSpear on February 25, 2016, 06:46:24 PM
Hopefully if Hillary becomes president she takes the extremely high energy position of moving all nuclear waste from Nevada to West Virginia.

Bad news for Hillary. This means she's likely going to get destroyed in SE OH/SW PA.

Yeah, but that was a given.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: DINGO Joe on February 25, 2016, 06:47:17 PM
Well Trump loves the poorly educated, and no state is more poorly educated than WV.  It's quite a romance.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 25, 2016, 06:47:37 PM
Hopefully if Hillary becomes president she takes the extremely high energy position of moving all nuclear waste from Nevada to West Virginia.
Gotta fill all those empty coal veins with something. Where will the Clinton's hide their murder victims, though?


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on February 25, 2016, 06:51:40 PM
Hopefully if Hillary becomes president she takes the extremely high energy position of moving all nuclear waste from Nevada to West Virginia.

Bad news for Hillary. This means she's likely going to get destroyed in SE OH/SW PA.

Yeah, but that was a given.

If Trump gets above 45% in Pittsburgh he likely carries the state.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: IceSpear on February 25, 2016, 06:57:04 PM
Hopefully if Hillary becomes president she takes the extremely high energy position of moving all nuclear waste from Nevada to West Virginia.

Bad news for Hillary. This means she's likely going to get destroyed in SE OH/SW PA.

Yeah, but that was a given.

If Trump gets above 45% in Pittsburgh he likely carries the state.

He'll almost certainly do worse in the East than Romney did though.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Devils30 on February 25, 2016, 07:56:20 PM
Hillary would make up losses in SW PA, SE OH with even bigger than Obama wins in the Philly burbs, Ohio cities.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: DS0816 on February 28, 2016, 12:48:26 AM
You guys have to remember that Trump is the perfect candidate for this state. The political views of the typical West Virginian match the political views of Donald Trump. WV is the epitome of a right-wing populist state. Hillary is going to do so bad here. Trump might actually do better than Romney here (despite doing worse than Romney nationwide).

If Donald Trump wins a 2016 Republican pickup of the presidency, approximately every state will shift Republicans.

West Virginia carried for Mitt Romney, in 2012, by about 27 percentage points. It was 30 points more Republican than the nation. This poll result would comport with a Republican pickup of the presidency.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: pbrower2a on February 28, 2016, 08:50:32 PM
You guys have to remember that Trump is the perfect candidate for this state. The political views of the typical West Virginian match the political views of Donald Trump. WV is the epitome of a right-wing populist state. Hillary is going to do so bad here. Trump might actually do better than Romney here (despite doing worse than Romney nationwide).

If Donald Trump wins a 2016 Republican pickup of the presidency, approximately every state will shift Republicans.

West Virginia carried for Mitt Romney, in 2012, by about 27 percentage points. It was 30 points more Republican than the nation. This poll result would comport with a Republican pickup of the presidency.

An even shift of 2.68% R would do that.  Really it might take more should Virginia still trend D against the national trend (which existing polls suggest).   


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Kingpoleon on February 28, 2016, 08:53:40 PM
B-b-b-but Atlas Democrats told me that WV would be competitive without a black man on the ballot!!!1

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=166588.0


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: MATTROSE94 on March 01, 2016, 05:58:09 PM
Hillary would make up losses in SW PA, SE OH with even bigger than Obama wins in the Philly burbs, Ohio cities.
I don't really see Hillary Clinton doing all that much better than Obama in the cities in Ohio. If anything, she will fall to Kerry 2004 levels in Columbus and lose Cincinnati by about 5% to any of the Republicans running. As for Pennsylvania, I would argue that Donald Trump, John Kasich, and especially Marco Rubio could win the state despite losing the Philadelphia suburbs by large margins by focusing on increasing turnout in the rural areas of the state and by campaigning heavily in Pittsburgh and its surrounding suburbs. If I were Donald Trump, I would actually write off Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida and instead focus on winning the rest of the Romney 2012 states in addition to Colorado, Ohio, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Both Wisconsin and Michigan are a bit of a stretch, but Trump could potentially do well with blue collar voters in both states.


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on March 01, 2016, 06:31:02 PM
B-b-b-but Atlas Democrats told me that WV would be competitive without a black man on the ballot!!!1

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=166588.0

So the atlas=two socialist avatars who are now gone?  :P  Talk about beating a dead horse. 


Title: Re: WV- Trump up 37 on Clinton
Post by: RINO Tom on March 02, 2016, 10:02:03 PM
lolz. Mega thrashing!

Remember in 2013 when Hillary was supposed to be competitive in WV against presumptive nominee Christie, which could help make up for her possible loss in NJ?

Remember when it wasn't that ridiculous to think so then?  I mean, we were basing them on current polling, just like you're doing now!