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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results => Topic started by: ElectionsGuy on September 26, 2015, 08:57:37 PM



Title: Do more people live in >70% Romney or >70% Obama counties?
Post by: ElectionsGuy on September 26, 2015, 08:57:37 PM
I totaled it up:

35,208,007 in >70% Obama counties (would be 45 million if Los Angeles County was 0.3% more Obama!, also Cuyahoga and King, WA were close to 70% Obama), over 13 million of which comes from California and New York.

23,281,520 in >70% Romney counties (over 5 million of which come from Texas) over a collection of mostly rural America.

Despite the fact that there are far more >70% Romney counties, more people live in deep blue America than deep red America. This is part of Democrats problem with their voter base being too concentrated to win governmental bodies that are based on equal population districting (state legislatures, the US house)


Title: Re: Do more people live in >70% Romney or >70% Obama counties?
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on September 27, 2015, 01:15:45 AM
I was expecting a bigger difference.  I guess those rural counties add up.


Title: Re: Do more people live in >70% Romney or >70% Obama counties?
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 27, 2015, 01:19:45 AM
Yes, the Illinois Democratic drawn maps have the median district close to the state as the wholeWhile states that don't have Democrats in full control of drawing the maps tend to have maps that favor the Republicans. I think for Illinois it might still slightly favor the Republicans.

Of course the fact that most large states have completely Republican maps makes the gerrymandering just ridiculous.


Title: Re: Do more people live in >70% Romney or >70% Obama counties?
Post by: Del Tachi on September 27, 2015, 04:28:08 PM
I've always understood that the number of Americans living in high-density, "urban" environments is roughly equal to those living in rural areas.   


Title: Re: Do more people live in >70% Romney or >70% Obama counties?
Post by: pbrower2a on October 20, 2015, 05:03:24 PM
The 80% Romney counties are overwhelmingly rural as a group.

If one goes on population density. the 65 most densely populated counties, independent cities, and the Federal District went heavily for Obama in 2008 -- and McCain broke even in the rest of them. But those densely-populated areas included the Boroughs of New York City, most of northeastern New Jersey, the DC area, Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Columbus(OH), Detroit, Milwaukee, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Indianapolis, Baltimore, Richmond, Charlotte, Miami, Tampa, St. Petersburg, Orlando, Denver, Seattle, Portland (OR), and those of the San Francisco Bay Area.  Other than those (and they include some rather small cities in Virginia as well as some big cities in States that Obama lost), Obama lost America.     


Title: Re: Do more people live in >70% Romney or >70% Obama counties?
Post by: RINO Tom on October 20, 2015, 05:49:50 PM
The 80% Romney counties are overwhelmingly rural as a group.

If one goes on population density. the 65 most densely populated counties, independent cities, and the Federal District went heavily for Obama in 2008 -- and McCain broke even in the rest of them. But those densely-populated areas included the Boroughs of New York City, most of northeastern New Jersey, the DC area, Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Columbus(OH), Detroit, Milwaukee, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Indianapolis, Baltimore, Richmond, Charlotte, Miami, Tampa, St. Petersburg, Orlando, Denver, Seattle, Portland (OR), and those of the San Francisco Bay Area.  Other than those (and they include some rather small cities in Virginia as well as some big cities in States that Obama lost), Obama lost America.     

I've seen other people call you out on this before, and I have to ask the same question: why do you use 2008 numbers instead of WAY more relevant 2012 numbers?


Title: Re: Do more people live in >70% Romney or >70% Obama counties?
Post by: Ebsy on October 27, 2015, 11:11:03 AM
The 80% Romney counties are overwhelmingly rural as a group.

If one goes on population density. the 65 most densely populated counties, independent cities, and the Federal District went heavily for Obama in 2008 -- and McCain broke even in the rest of them. But those densely-populated areas included the Boroughs of New York City, most of northeastern New Jersey, the DC area, Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Columbus(OH), Detroit, Milwaukee, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Indianapolis, Baltimore, Richmond, Charlotte, Miami, Tampa, St. Petersburg, Orlando, Denver, Seattle, Portland (OR), and those of the San Francisco Bay Area.  Other than those (and they include some rather small cities in Virginia as well as some big cities in States that Obama lost), Obama lost America.     
This is garbage analysis.