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Title: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: Thunderbird is the word on May 01, 2015, 10:51:18 PM
The Democrats manage to scrape through the 2018 midterms fairly unscathed however in 2019 a deep recession sets in due to instability in the EU. President Hillary has ratcheted up bombing raids in Iraq and sent ground troops into Syria. With her presidency increasingly unpopular and a growing war weariness and unemployment at over 7% Rand Paul, the runner up in 2016 makes it through a crowded GOP primary field and runs an isolationist campaign which proves to be quite popular. He even gets to Hillary's left on civil liberties and manages to win by a fairly comfortable margin.
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Paul/Snyder     303
Clinton/Castro  235


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: Skill and Chance on May 01, 2015, 10:59:46 PM
The Democrats manage to scrape through the 2018 midterms fairly unscathed however in 2019 a deep recession sets in due to instability in the EU. President Hillary has ratcheted up bombing raids in Iraq and sent ground troops into Syria. With her presidency increasingly unpopular and a growing war weariness and unemployment at over 7% Rand Paul, the runner up in 2016 makes it through a crowded GOP primary field and runs an isolationist campaign which proves to be quite popular. He even gets to Hillary's left on civil liberties and manages to win by a fairly comfortable margin.
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Paul/Snyder     303
Clinton/Castro  235


How the heck would Paul get 60% in Pennsylvania while losing Virginia?  There aren't that many defense contractors!


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: Thunderbird is the word on May 01, 2015, 11:14:58 PM
The Democrats manage to scrape through the 2018 midterms fairly unscathed however in 2019 a deep recession sets in due to instability in the EU. President Hillary has ratcheted up bombing raids in Iraq and sent ground troops into Syria. With her presidency increasingly unpopular and a growing war weariness and unemployment at over 7% Rand Paul, the runner up in 2016 makes it through a crowded GOP primary field and runs an isolationist campaign which proves to be quite popular. He even gets to Hillary's left on civil liberties and manages to win by a fairly comfortable margin.
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Paul/Snyder     303
Clinton/Castro  235


How the heck would Paul get 60% in Pennsylvania while losing Virginia?  There aren't that many defense contractors!

That was an error, I meant to have it at 50%, though I suppose it's theoretically possible if he campaigned heavily in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh to cut into Hillary's lead while winning in a blowout everywhere else.


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: JonathanSwift on May 02, 2015, 11:10:03 AM
If Paul wins Michigan and Oregon, he also wins Florida and Virginia.


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: ElectionsGuy on May 02, 2015, 12:16:48 PM
In this situation you just described, its almost at the level of Jimmy Carter running for re-election.

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374-164


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: Thunderbird is the word on May 02, 2015, 01:00:46 PM
If Paul wins Michigan and Oregon, he also wins Florida and Virginia.

Not necessarily, it has to do with where he appeals individually.


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: bobloblaw on May 02, 2015, 06:42:54 PM
The Democrats manage to scrape through the 2018 midterms fairly unscathed however in 2019 a deep recession sets in due to instability in the EU. President Hillary has ratcheted up bombing raids in Iraq and sent ground troops into Syria. With her presidency increasingly unpopular and a growing war weariness and unemployment at over 7% Rand Paul, the runner up in 2016 makes it through a crowded GOP primary field and runs an isolationist campaign which proves to be quite popular. He even gets to Hillary's left on civil liberties and manages to win by a fairly comfortable margin.
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Paul/Snyder     303
Clinton/Castro  235


2018 wont be unscathed for the DEMs


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: 5280 on May 03, 2015, 12:35:50 AM
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374-164


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: bobloblaw on May 03, 2015, 10:54:56 AM
I doubt Snyder would deliver MI


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: SingingAnalyst on May 10, 2015, 07:54:15 PM
I agree. Snyder barely won re-election in 2014, 51-47. (
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Clinton / Castro 237
Paul / Snyder 301


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: RFayette on May 11, 2015, 10:27:26 PM
A mediocre 2018 probably would help the GOP in 2020 as it gives them more ammunition against the "Democratic machine."


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: / on July 07, 2015, 01:16:27 PM
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Home state advantage 101


Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: user12345 on July 07, 2015, 04:24:30 PM
What kinda Hillary hack are you, there is NO way she will win Colorado, ever, they hate condoms. (
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Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: Thunderbird is the word on July 07, 2015, 04:34:41 PM
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I forgot to set the margin of victory in Colprado at +90% for Rand Paul.
Home state advantage 101
What kinda Hillary hack are you, there is NO way she will win Colorado, ever, they hate condoms. (
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Title: Re: 2020: Clinton/Castro (D) vs Paul/Snyder (R)
Post by: Skill and Chance on July 07, 2015, 07:22:14 PM
A mediocre 2018 probably would help the GOP in 2020 as it gives them more ammunition against the "Democratic machine."

That's true.  An incumbent party holding strong in a midterm is more often a curse than a blessing.  1934-36 is the obvious exception, but that was basically the most favorable environment for an incumbent party since the Civil War.