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Title: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2014, 10:09:21 PM
http://www1.nh1.com/news/paul-steinhauser-new-nh1-nec-poll-nh-governor-and-senate-contests-all-knotted-up/#.VFbxgNFs7NI.twitter


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: New_Conservative on November 02, 2014, 10:10:08 PM
Too good to be true


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 02, 2014, 10:13:41 PM
Oh, could you imagine this place if he wins...


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ on November 02, 2014, 10:14:17 PM
Governor and NH-02 numbers look right, but NH-01 has Shea-Porter down way too much. 4-6 I would believe but a 9 point gain in 2 weeks is quite a bit.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: KCDem on November 02, 2014, 10:14:52 PM
Guinta with a 9 point lead? LOL to the junk pile it goes!


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2014, 10:15:37 PM
Apparently this firm doesn't poll cell phones. No wonder they're so junk!


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: IceSpear on November 02, 2014, 10:16:09 PM
It seems statistically VERY unlikely that they'd have literally the exact same result three times in a row.

Combine that with the fact that they had to recall some of their house polls, and something smells very fishy about these guys.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: New_Conservative on November 02, 2014, 10:18:51 PM
It seems statistically VERY unlikely that they'd have literally the exact same result three times in a row.

Combine that with the fact that they had to recall some of their house polls, and something smells very fishy about these guys.

New England College has no reason to fudge numbers in Brown's favor, they are just a terrible pollster.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 02, 2014, 10:19:50 PM
     New Hampshire only attracts the dodgiest polling firms.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on November 02, 2014, 11:12:04 PM
I still think Shaheen pulls this out, but it's going to be a 2-4% win.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 02, 2014, 11:12:51 PM
    New Hampshire only attracts the dodgiest polling firms.

I'd like to introduce you to Michigan.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Free Bird on November 02, 2014, 11:22:08 PM
Oh, could you imagine this place if he wins...


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort on November 03, 2014, 12:09:03 AM
Oh, could you imagine this place if he wins...

It would say much more about New Hampshire voters than fellow forumites.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Vosem on November 03, 2014, 12:10:39 AM
Oh, could you imagine this place if he wins...

It would say much more about New Hampshire voters than fellow forumites.

It would probably paint a much better picture of the former than the latter.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on November 03, 2014, 12:28:27 AM
Oh, could you imagine this place if he wins...

The only thing better would be a Gillespie win in Virginia. Atlas would explode.
As it is, the wait for a Warner call on Tuesday should make things explode a little, especially if the early results look weird (like in 2012, when Mitt Romney actually led in the early count in Prince William County, before the Obama precincts swooped in big).



Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: KCDem on November 03, 2014, 12:34:58 AM
Are Shaheen and Brown the only ones on the ballot?


Title: NH: New England College: Brown with very slight lead
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2014, 12:35:45 AM
New Poll: New Hampshire Senator by New England College on 2014-11-01 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/SENATE/2014/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=33220141101217)

Summary: D: 48%, R: 49%, I: 1%, U: 2%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.nec.edu/wp-content/uploads/NEC-Poll-Results-10.31-11.1-2014.pdf)


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on November 03, 2014, 12:45:19 AM
Are Shaheen and Brown the only ones on the ballot?
Yes


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Badger on November 03, 2014, 10:17:55 AM
For over a month now every poll out of 20 (other than last week's tie from ARRRGHH) has shown Shaheen ahead. The exception: 4 polls all from NEC. The previous 3 showing the exact same 48/47 split. It'll be close of course, but I'm not buying a Brown upset here.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: NHI on November 03, 2014, 05:34:39 PM
For over a month now every poll out of 20 (other than last week's tie from ARRRGHH) has shown Shaheen ahead. The exception: 4 polls all from NEC. The previous 3 showing the exact same 48/47 split. It'll be close of course, but I'm not buying a Brown upset here.

Hard to say. Ground game is going to make the difference in New Hampshire. If the more conservative/tea party folks sit home or vote write-in, sadly Shaheen wins...


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: KCDem on November 03, 2014, 05:50:52 PM
For over a month now every poll out of 20 (other than last week's tie from ARRRGHH) has shown Shaheen ahead. The exception: 4 polls all from NEC. The previous 3 showing the exact same 48/47 split. It'll be close of course, but I'm not buying a Brown upset here.

Hard to say. Ground game is going to make the difference in New Hampshire. If the more conservative/tea party folks sit home or vote write-in, sadly Shaheen wins...

The thing is ground game is going to be to the benefit of the Democrats nationally. That will swing the close races in their direction.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ on November 03, 2014, 05:58:09 PM
For over a month now every poll out of 20 (other than last week's tie from ARRRGHH) has shown Shaheen ahead. The exception: 4 polls all from NEC. The previous 3 showing the exact same 48/47 split. It'll be close of course, but I'm not buying a Brown upset here.

Hard to say. Ground game is going to make the difference in New Hampshire. If the more conservative/tea party folks sit home or vote write-in, sadly Shaheen wins...

The thing is ground game is going to be to the benefit of the Democrats nationally. That will swing the close races in their direction.

It's hard to make that claim though. I think almost certainly in Alaska and Colorado, but nationwide? Republicans are the party traditionally known for their grassroots efforts, and I think in the Northeast they may still be able to pull it off. I'm in no way calling a Brown win, but the ground game could be a benefit there - it's hard to tell just yet.


Title: Re: NH-Final NEC Poll: Brown +1
Post by: KCDem on November 03, 2014, 06:01:08 PM
For over a month now every poll out of 20 (other than last week's tie from ARRRGHH) has shown Shaheen ahead. The exception: 4 polls all from NEC. The previous 3 showing the exact same 48/47 split. It'll be close of course, but I'm not buying a Brown upset here.

Hard to say. Ground game is going to make the difference in New Hampshire. If the more conservative/tea party folks sit home or vote write-in, sadly Shaheen wins...

The thing is ground game is going to be to the benefit of the Democrats nationally. That will swing the close races in their direction.

It's hard to make that claim though. I think almost certainly in Alaska and Colorado, but nationwide? Republicans are the party traditionally known for their grassroots efforts, and I think in the Northeast they may still be able to pull it off. I'm in no way calling a Brown win, but the ground game could be a benefit there - it's hard to tell just yet.

Yes, but the Democrats invested $60 million in competitive senate race ground game. I'm guessing New Hampshire is within that expenditure.