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48/43.  (http://www.kentucky.com/2014/10/30/3510712_mitch-mcconnell-widens-lead-over.html?rh=1)

I was soooooo close to being the first to get this up!!! Curse you RB!! :P

RIP Grimes

Disgusting.

:'( So sad. Taking the turtle out would've been a momentous occasion.

When that PoS internal was released earlier today, I thought they were trying to preempt these numbers. I expected it to be closer, but whatever.

Looks like McConnell will win. No surprises.

Kentucky truly deserves all the poverty it has. I really hope the coal industry collapses soon and clean energy takes over.

This seems like an accurate poll.

Hopefully everyone in Eastern Kentucky gets black lung.

Loved that little tease known as last week! We had it all along, boys.

Don't worry, the not-as-Invisible Obama is already working on that. That's part of the reason why KY was very unlikely to go into the D column to begin with. Obama's regulations are killing the KY/WV coal region.

Kentucky = Republican's traditional NJ.

Obama's regulations are actually helping the KY/WV coal region.

It's McConnell who opposes the minimum wage and supports union-busting.

It was going to collapse eventually anyway, it's unsustainable long term and that has nothing to do with Obama.

Helping the region how? If I were a miner, I wouldn't care two bits about clean air as I would my ability to feed my family.

Come on, dude. Obama's policies have worked so well and are so popular that Grimes has to support the coal industry by distancing herself from Obama? Put out commercials how she'd defend Kentucky against Obama's regulations? Dance around whether she even voted for Obama. Seriously?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the people of the region are not fans of coal plants getting shut down. You wouldn't be either if you were in the industry. It's interest group politics 101.

Obama hasn't shut down any coal plants.

Incidentally, the United Mine Workers has endorsed Grimes.

And they say Republicans are heartless...

Plants taken off-line due to EPA Regulations: http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/topics/policy/power-plant-closures/

A union endorsing a Democrat? No way. As per usual, the union bosses are not necessarily in line with the rank-and-file.

You do know who the IER is don't you?

Yes. Evil folks that are for stuff like using the bountiful fossil fuels we have within our borders. Anti-EPA.

Refute the facts and my underlying assertions as opposed to attacking the messenger because you don't like them.

My point is that KY is/was a pipe dream and a very difficult gain for the Democrats because of Obama's energy policy, which is NOT favorable to one of the state's main industries.

I don't like nor dislike them. I don't especially care about this race because Grimes was never winning.

But since you're using the 'OMG the Unionz endorsed a Dem line' ... it's only fair to point out that your source for the damage apparently done by the President's policies is an energy-backed lobby group. That's all.

What is heartless about it? They are voting for Senator who has been in office for 30 years, and parts of the state that aren't even density populated have low paying jobs and poverty. You really get the government officials you vote for.

Dominating.

No president since LBJ has done as much to improve the lives of Kentuckians as Obama has. That's a fact. Too bad they're too racist and xenophobic to realize it.

Plus, Kentucky Fried Chicken is pretty disgusting. It's basically rubber dunked in grease. What kind of sicko actually eats there?

Evidence of that "fact?" I'm pretty sure roughly 60% of the citizens in the state disagree.

That's the view if, a majority agree with a premise, it's correct, even if it's not objectively the case.

How is it objectively the case?

IIRC correctly, at least anecdotally, there was a nasty ice storm in the region shortly after Obama took office and the FEMA response was less than optimal.

What was it that Obama has done for KY that should make that 60% of ingrates grateful?

If I remember correctly, FEMA did pretty good that time.

That's kind of not how things work. A large percentage of Kentuckians have become insured, which is a fact. Whether or not they want to give the President credit doesn't have any bearing on the truth. When you have these miners would won't give up on a dying industry foolishly still working for greedy employers, healthcare is a must.

You guys need to lay off Kentucky. Even if your're joking these posts are in poor taste.

Hopefully blue states start creating their own health-care legislation like Saskatchewan or Vermont (or even Massachusetts) and leave the rest to their fate. Environmental stewardship must remain enforced at a federal level, though.

Finally a decent poll! It'll be close but not close enough. "Lean R". Oh well.

not as poor as those coal miners are going to be after they vote mitch mcconnell

I say we take all of the waste in Yucca Mountain, and PUSH IT to Kentucky.

     Dems are a little bitter since this looks like it is going to be a difficult election cycle for them. They have to contend with the six-year itch, though, so it was really quite expected that this would be the case.