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Election Archive => 2014 Senatorial Election Polls => Topic started by: Miles on October 23, 2014, 10:21:13 AM



Title: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Miles on October 23, 2014, 10:21:13 AM
Link coming.

Orman (I)- 49%
Roberts (R)- 44%


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: DrScholl on October 23, 2014, 10:22:12 AM
Orman is headed for a smashing victory over non-resident Roberts.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Tender Branson on October 23, 2014, 10:22:40 AM
Well, great (if they don't delete it again) ... ;)

Time to send Roberts to the retirement home.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 23, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
This is hilarious.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Maxwell on October 23, 2014, 10:32:19 AM
Rassy seems to be on a 2 week delay.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Recalcuate on October 23, 2014, 10:33:00 AM
Well, great (if they don't delete it again) ... ;)

Time to send Roberts to the retirement home.

Well the folks no longer named Rasmussen took the 1 out front of the 5, it seems.  We'll see if they like this result enough to release it. ;)


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 23, 2014, 10:37:44 AM
Waiting for confirmation from a credible firm, but this seems reasonable.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Miles on October 23, 2014, 10:43:04 AM
^ PPP had Orman +3, but yeah, I'd like more polls from here.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 23, 2014, 10:44:31 AM
^ PPP had Orman +3, but yeah, I'd like more polls from here.

I know, but this suggests Roberts has lost some momenrum while Orman has gained support, unlike what the PPP poll was showing.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2014, 11:10:20 AM
Excellent. Looks like the corrupt old fossil is gonna be sent back to his home in Ukraine.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Rockefeller GOP on October 23, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
Waiting for confirmation from a credible firm, but this seems reasonable.

You guys are unbelievable.  If it's a joke firm, it's a joke firm.  And its results are crap and not reason for optimism or pessimism.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Mehmentum on October 23, 2014, 12:25:24 PM
Waiting for confirmation from a credible firm, but this seems reasonable.

You guys are unbelievable.  If it's a joke firm, it's a joke firm.  And its results are crap and not reason for optimism or pessimism.
Sorry, did you mean to post this here? https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=200999.0 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=200999.0)


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Rockefeller GOP on October 23, 2014, 01:43:13 PM
Waiting for confirmation from a credible firm, but this seems reasonable.

You guys are unbelievable.  If it's a joke firm, it's a joke firm.  And its results are crap and not reason for optimism or pessimism.
Sorry, did you mean to post this here? https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=200999.0 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=200999.0)

No, LOL, Gravis is a whole other level.  But people here constantly bash Rasmussen until it gives a favorable poll for Dems/Indys/non-Republicans, then it's "well, I'll wait for a credible pollster, but this looks right."??  Haha, come on...


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 23, 2014, 02:18:32 PM
Waiting for confirmation from a credible firm, but this seems reasonable.

You guys are unbelievable.  If it's a joke firm, it's a joke firm.  And its results are crap and not reason for optimism or pessimism.

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Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: bedstuy on October 23, 2014, 02:34:59 PM
Yeah, it's also important to note that Rasmussen has a record of bias in favor of Republicans, not just simple inaccuracy.  You should take every poll with a grain of salt, but this is not a blatant outlier so it's a decent piece of data. 


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: IceSpear on October 23, 2014, 02:39:52 PM
Gregory the Gallant is such a gentleman, I'm sure he's reserved the DC fossil a bed at Shady Pines so he won't be homeless after the embarrassing and painful spanking he's about to receive.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: dmmidmi on October 23, 2014, 03:31:41 PM
So, Orman +9 it is.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 23, 2014, 03:49:17 PM

That's not how polling works.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: dmmidmi on October 23, 2014, 03:53:32 PM

You do know we're talking about a polling outfit that shows an average R+4 bias, right?

Orman +9 it is.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: morgieb on October 23, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
Rassy's been all over the shop this year. Probably still good news for Orman given other polls had him struggling, but it's hard to trust them at all.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Recalcuate on October 23, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
Yeah, it's also important to note that Rasmussen has a record of bias in favor of Republicans, not just simple inaccuracy.  You should take every poll with a grain of salt, but this is not a blatant outlier so it's a decent piece of data. 

Before or after Scott Rasmussen left the company? I think the jury is still out on this cycle, their numbers are just bizarre.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 23, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
I parked my car earlier and there is now a car with a Kansas plate parked in front of me (for real). That's more inticative of the result in the Kansas Senate race than this damn garbage.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Maxwell on October 23, 2014, 04:31:44 PM

You do know we're talking about a polling outfit that shows an average R+4 bias, right?

Orman +9 it is.

How about the far more reliable PPP poll, which shows Orman+3?


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: bedstuy on October 23, 2014, 04:40:16 PM
Yeah, it's also important to note that Rasmussen has a record of bias in favor of Republicans, not just simple inaccuracy.  You should take every poll with a grain of salt, but this is not a blatant outlier so it's a decent piece of data. 

Before or after Scott Rasmussen left the company? I think the jury is still out on this cycle, their numbers are just bizarre.

Who really knows, right?  Was he personally responsible for the biases in their polling which resulted in a Republican bias in their polls? Maybe I don't know.

I'm personally skeptical about Orman winning in any case just based on the fundamentals of the state.  Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Orman won by 5% or lost by 5%.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: ElectionsGuy on October 23, 2014, 04:53:55 PM
Orman still leading Roberts? Ouch.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Person Man on October 23, 2014, 05:57:42 PM
Needless to say, Orman will pass 50%.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Mr. Reactionary on October 23, 2014, 09:20:25 PM
I can't wait until Orman starts voting with Republicans.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 23, 2014, 09:42:18 PM
I can't wait until Orman starts voting with Republicans.

Who cares?  A RINO from Kansas is still infinitely better than an actual Republican.


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: Badger on October 24, 2014, 03:41:19 PM
I parked my car earlier and there is now a car with a Kansas plate parked in front of me (for real). That's more inticative of the result in the Kansas Senate race than this damn garbage.

Um, multiple polls?  ???


Title: Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5
Post by: King on October 24, 2014, 03:44:54 PM
I parked my car earlier and there is now a car with a Kansas plate parked in front of me (for real). That's more inticative of the result in the Kansas Senate race than this damn garbage.

Yes, Kansans are fleeing the Brownback/Roberts economy in droves. Very astute observation.