Title: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Miles on September 23, 2014, 08:58:36 AM Article. (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/09/close-alaska-races-for-senate-governor.html)
Sullivan (R)- 43% Begich (D)- 41% Others- 5% Without third parties: Sullivan- 45% Begich- 42% Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Maxwell on September 23, 2014, 09:09:15 AM We'll see, but Sullivan maybe running away with this. His favorables are going up rapidly, while Begich's approval is looking more and more like Obama.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Never on September 23, 2014, 09:16:22 AM Again, I don't trust Alaska polling much, but it seems like this race is really moving in Sullivan's direction now, and PPP did catch that, so this is worth something.
Also, I found it interesting that PPP polled Murkowski's approval too, even though she's not up for reelection until 2016. They seemed to note that her best path would be to run as an Independent again because her approval is positive overall but underwater with Republicans: Quote She continues to be on positive ground with Democrats (50/37) and in negative territory with Republicans (41/46) suggesting she might be best off just going the independent route again in 2016 rather than subjecting herself to another difficult Republican primary. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Miles on September 23, 2014, 09:41:57 AM I like that PPP is including Internet polling, which more firms should try, but this is why I'm a bit skeptical of it: Begich leads 42/18 in the internet sample with 40% (!) not sure.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: backtored on September 23, 2014, 09:57:50 AM 8-9 seats.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on September 23, 2014, 10:08:18 AM Begich isn't gonna lose obviously.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on September 23, 2014, 10:18:06 AM Well sh[Inks] :(
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: The Other Castro on September 23, 2014, 11:09:49 AM Tilt R
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Free Bird on September 23, 2014, 11:54:52 AM Cue people starting to deem PPP garbage.
By the way, clever titling there. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Fusionmunster on September 23, 2014, 12:16:10 PM ^
Your a broken record. Anyway, sounds about right. Begich is a great senator but Alaska is still Ruby Red. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: JRP1994 on September 23, 2014, 12:38:46 PM Alaska is "Leans Republican", no question.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Miles on September 23, 2014, 12:40:29 PM By the way, clever titling there. How's it clever? I appreciate the compliment, but I actually wasn't being that creative. If you click the link, PPP actually has the almost same title for their report! Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Free Bird on September 23, 2014, 01:43:05 PM ^ Your a broken record. Anyway, sounds about right. Begich is a great senator but Alaska is still Ruby Red. I agree with the later statement Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Free Bird on September 23, 2014, 01:44:21 PM By the way, clever titling there. How's it clever? I appreciate the compliment, but I actually wasn't being that creative. If you click the link, PPP actually has the almost same title for their report! Only clever by saying "close race" instead of "Sullivan maintaining traction" or something. I'm not even mad, it's just a psychological thing I notice a lot of people do. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Miles on September 23, 2014, 01:52:52 PM Only clever by saying "close race" instead of "Sullivan maintaining traction" or something. I'm not even mad, it's just a psychological thing I notice a lot of people do. Er, I wasn't going for anything like that... Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: DrScholl on September 23, 2014, 02:24:44 PM By the way, clever titling there. How's it clever? I appreciate the compliment, but I actually wasn't being that creative. If you click the link, PPP actually has the almost same title for their report! Only clever by saying "close race" instead of "Sullivan maintaining traction" or something. I'm not even mad, it's just a psychological thing I notice a lot of people do. It really isn't that serious. When you start think things are psychological, you are really going overboard. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Niemeyerite on September 23, 2014, 03:00:29 PM By the way, clever titling there. How's it clever? I appreciate the compliment, but I actually wasn't being that creative. If you click the link, PPP actually has the almost same title for their report! Only clever by saying "close race" instead of "Sullivan maintaining traction" or something. I'm not even mad, it's just a psychological thing I notice a lot of people do. Shut up. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Maxwell on September 23, 2014, 03:05:29 PM Cue people starting to deem PPP garbage. By the way, clever titling there. It's within 2 points dude. It is a close race. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Mr. Reactionary on September 23, 2014, 03:18:43 PM I'm not even mad, it's just a psychological thing I notice a lot of people do. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on September 23, 2014, 03:37:54 PM As long as we win KS and NC and win AK or CO we should be able to hold senate as long as Orman plays ball.
But I am skeptical about this poll. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Potus on September 23, 2014, 03:49:40 PM As long as we win KS and NC and win AK or CO we should be able to hold senate as long as Orman plays ball. But I am skeptical about this poll. PPP is the gold standard here. You're a delusional hack. Stop posting. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: moderatevoter on September 23, 2014, 03:50:08 PM As long as we win KS and NC and win AK or CO we should be able to hold senate as long as Orman plays ball. But I am skeptical about this poll. Why, because the Democrat is down? Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on September 23, 2014, 03:54:12 PM PPP (despite being hired by Democrats) has actually admitted that their polls are more Republican than the real results.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Vega on September 23, 2014, 04:06:25 PM Sullivan seems to have maintained his post-primary lead.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Maxwell on September 23, 2014, 04:31:23 PM PPP (despite being hired by Democrats) has actually admitted that their polls are more Republican than the real results. lol k. That's not actually true though, but then again, you don't really care. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Keystone Phil on September 23, 2014, 04:31:51 PM "Close race" = "Ok, so we've lost the lead in Alaska, too."
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: DrScholl on September 23, 2014, 04:39:55 PM 2% does indicate a close race, especially in a state like Alaska, where it isn't exactly easy to poll. The quibbling about the thread title is silly.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: The Other Castro on September 23, 2014, 05:05:37 PM Given how polls in Alaska tend to overstate Democrat's chances, its safer to categorize this as a Republican pickup at this point. Begich needs to have a consistent lead of at least 6 for Dems to be in a good position and I don't really see that happening.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Panda Express on September 23, 2014, 06:55:02 PM Begich.... could be in trouble here.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: JRP1994 on September 23, 2014, 07:18:13 PM Begich.... Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort on September 23, 2014, 07:25:33 PM Begich.... Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on September 23, 2014, 07:27:32 PM Assuming this is true, the real question is...why?
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: IceSpear on September 23, 2014, 07:33:22 PM Both PPP and Ras have Sullivan up 2. Don't really see how that translates to a "lean R" race, especially considering the quality (or lack thereof) of Alaska polling.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: GaussLaw on September 23, 2014, 08:16:38 PM "Close race" = "Ok, so we've lost the lead in Alaska, too." Exactly. If a Democrat is up, we use "Lead." If a Republican is up, it's "Close Race." :P Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Never on September 23, 2014, 08:19:35 PM Both PPP and Ras have Sullivan up 2. Don't really see how that translates to a "lean R" race, especially considering the quality (or lack thereof) of Alaska polling. Nate Silver wrote (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/senate-update-alaska-a-frontier-for-bad-polling/) that Republicans are historically underestimated in Alaska polls by an average of 7.2%, so if that plays out this year, we could have a Lean Republican race on our hands. Nevertheless, with Alaska's polling quality so low as you mentioned, we probably won't be able to say how this race will go with any degree of confidence anyhow. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: RI on September 23, 2014, 10:21:22 PM Both PPP and Ras have Sullivan up 2. Don't really see how that translates to a "lean R" race, especially considering the quality (or lack thereof) of Alaska polling. Nate Silver wrote (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/senate-update-alaska-a-frontier-for-bad-polling/) that Republicans are historically underestimated in Alaska polls by an average of 7.2%, so if that plays out this year, we could have a Lean Republican race on our hands. Nevertheless, with Alaska's polling quality so low as you mentioned, we probably won't be able to say how this race will go with any degree of confidence anyhow. Too bad they didn't include the 2010 Senate race where the Republican was consistently overestimated. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Free Bird on September 23, 2014, 10:25:21 PM Both PPP and Ras have Sullivan up 2. Don't really see how that translates to a "lean R" race, especially considering the quality (or lack thereof) of Alaska polling. Nate Silver wrote (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/senate-update-alaska-a-frontier-for-bad-polling/) that Republicans are historically underestimated in Alaska polls by an average of 7.2%, so if that plays out this year, we could have a Lean Republican race on our hands. Nevertheless, with Alaska's polling quality so low as you mentioned, we probably won't be able to say how this race will go with any degree of confidence anyhow. Too bad they didn't include the 2010 Senate race where the Republican was consistently overestimated. Perhaps because there were 3 people, and a Rep won anyway? Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Free Bird on September 23, 2014, 10:26:13 PM As long as we win KS and NC and win AK or CO we should be able to hold senate as long as Orman plays ball. But I am skeptical about this poll. And people called me crazy Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Maxwell on September 23, 2014, 10:28:41 PM Both PPP and Ras have Sullivan up 2. Don't really see how that translates to a "lean R" race, especially considering the quality (or lack thereof) of Alaska polling. Nate Silver wrote (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/senate-update-alaska-a-frontier-for-bad-polling/) that Republicans are historically underestimated in Alaska polls by an average of 7.2%, so if that plays out this year, we could have a Lean Republican race on our hands. Nevertheless, with Alaska's polling quality so low as you mentioned, we probably won't be able to say how this race will go with any degree of confidence anyhow. Too bad they didn't include the 2010 Senate race where the Republican was consistently overestimated. There were two Republicans. Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: IceSpear on September 23, 2014, 10:28:56 PM I look forward to this election cycle settling once and for all whether or not Alaska polls have a pro-incumbent or pro-Republican bias.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Never on September 23, 2014, 10:29:31 PM Both PPP and Ras have Sullivan up 2. Don't really see how that translates to a "lean R" race, especially considering the quality (or lack thereof) of Alaska polling. Nate Silver wrote (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/senate-update-alaska-a-frontier-for-bad-polling/) that Republicans are historically underestimated in Alaska polls by an average of 7.2%, so if that plays out this year, we could have a Lean Republican race on our hands. Nevertheless, with Alaska's polling quality so low as you mentioned, we probably won't be able to say how this race will go with any degree of confidence anyhow. Too bad they didn't include the 2010 Senate race where the Republican was consistently overestimated. Perhaps because there were 3 people, and a Rep one anyway? Yes, a three-way election seems like it wouldn't be too comparable to a two-way election. Even in that race, while Republican Miller was overestimated, Democratic nominee Scott McAdams was overestimated in some polls, namely PPP and Rasmussen (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/ak/alaska_senate_miller_vs_mcadams_vs_murkowski-1700.html). Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: MalaspinaGold on September 24, 2014, 01:18:40 AM My money's on anti-incumbent bias, and that Begich and Parnell are both ahead.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: ElectionsGuy on September 24, 2014, 06:33:39 AM Eh, Sullivan likely has the momentum now.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: MalaspinaGold on September 24, 2014, 09:19:32 AM The only positive here for Begich is that he leads 42-36 among indies, which is most of the undecided group.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Representative Joe Mad on September 24, 2014, 02:25:04 PM Damn. While I like Begich, and want him to win (and still believe he has a chance) I'm thinking he probably isn't going to make it out of this one.
Title: Re: AK: PPP: Close race Post by: Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort on September 24, 2014, 04:04:48 PM Damn. While I like Begich, and want him to win (and still believe he has a chance) I'm thinking he probably isn't going to make it out of this one. Same. |