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Election Archive => 2014 Senatorial Election Polls => Topic started by: Miles on September 09, 2014, 05:41:38 PM



Title: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Miles on September 09, 2014, 05:41:38 PM
http://www.ksfy.com/story/26490349/pressler-weiland-splitting-votes-in-race-for-senate

Rounds (R)- 39%
Weiland (D)- 28%
Pressler (I)- 25%
Howie (I)- 3%
Not sure- 11%

Rounds (R)- 44%
Weiland (D)- 42%


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: moderatevoter on September 09, 2014, 05:45:01 PM
Rounds will still win, but this is underwhelming.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Vega on September 09, 2014, 05:45:42 PM
It's Pressler who needs to drop out for sure.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: NHLiberal on September 09, 2014, 05:47:21 PM
It's pathetic that Rounds consistently can't break 40, but yeah this is still likely R (much closer to safe than lean). It's important to keep in mind that this isn't exactly like Kansas/Alaska, in that not all Pressler voters will go to Weiland if he drops out.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 09, 2014, 05:49:38 PM
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Rounds (R)- 44%
Weiland (D)- 42%

whoa

Is there a chance Pressler drops out?


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: cinyc on September 09, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
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Rounds (R)- 44%
Weiland (D)- 42%

whoa

Is there a chance Pressler drops out?

The deadline for dropping out in South Dakota has long past.  It was last month.  Anyone who drops out will remain on the ballot.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: 7,052,770 on September 09, 2014, 05:54:16 PM
Does SD have a runoff, our is plurality enough?

If plurality is fine, I'm not convinced that Weiland is better off in a 1v1 than with Pressler in it.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: NHLiberal on September 09, 2014, 05:55:09 PM
Does SD have a runoff, our is plurality enough?

If plurality is fine, I'm not convinced that Weiland is better off in a 1v1 than with Pressler in it.

Except he's down by 2 without Pressler and down by 11 with Pressler.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Miles on September 09, 2014, 05:56:00 PM
Does SD have a runoff, our is plurality enough?

GA is the only (non-jungle primary) state with general election runoffs.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: IceSpear on September 09, 2014, 07:04:57 PM
It's pathetic that Rounds consistently can't break 40, but yeah this is still likely R (much closer to safe than lean). It's important to keep in mind that this isn't exactly like Kansas/Alaska, in that not all Pressler voters will go to Weiland if he drops out.

Maybe Dems should lean on Weiland to drop out then.

Also, Rounds' performance here has been/is pitiful.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: ElectionsGuy on September 09, 2014, 07:10:48 PM
Wow, I underestimated this race. Kinda pathetic that Rounds is nearly tied with Weiland. Presslers votes are all coming from democrat-leaning indies or liberal republicans.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Brittain33 on September 10, 2014, 05:40:51 AM
What has Rounds done to lose any Republicans?


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 10, 2014, 04:23:14 PM
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Rounds (R)- 44%
Weiland (D)- 42%

whoa

Is there a chance Pressler drops out?

The deadline for dropping out in South Dakota has long past.  It was last month.  Anyone who drops out will remain on the ballot.

Oh, cinyc. You don't understand, do you? Petty matters like legal ballot deadlines don't matter to the notorious ballot shysters in the opposition party. 


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: The Other Castro on September 10, 2014, 08:29:38 PM
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Rounds (R)- 44%
Weiland (D)- 42%

whoa

Is there a chance Pressler drops out?

The deadline for dropping out in South Dakota has long past.  It was last month.  Anyone who drops out will remain on the ballot.

Oh, cinyc. You don't understand, do you? Petty matters like legal ballot deadlines don't matter to the notorious ballot shysters in the opposition party. 

Are u referring to Kansas or just doing your normal condescension?


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: KCDem on September 10, 2014, 08:47:07 PM
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Rounds (R)- 44%
Weiland (D)- 42%

whoa

Is there a chance Pressler drops out?

The deadline for dropping out in South Dakota has long past.  It was last month.  Anyone who drops out will remain on the ballot.

Oh, cinyc. You don't understand, do you? Petty matters like legal ballot deadlines don't matter to the notorious ballot shysters in the opposition party. 

Are u referring to Kansas or just doing your normal condescension?

Just his normal shuck and jive. Nothing of substance...


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 10, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
Quote
Rounds (R)- 44%
Weiland (D)- 42%

whoa

Is there a chance Pressler drops out?

The deadline for dropping out in South Dakota has long past.  It was last month.  Anyone who drops out will remain on the ballot.

Oh, cinyc. You don't understand, do you? Petty matters like legal ballot deadlines don't matter to the notorious ballot shysters in the opposition party. 

Are u referring to Kansas or just doing your normal condescension?

Kansas and various other states where the Dems, set to lose, try to pull a magic ballot act and then whine on the rare occasion when the law triumphs.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: IceSpear on September 10, 2014, 11:29:31 PM
Quote
Rounds (R)- 44%
Weiland (D)- 42%

whoa

Is there a chance Pressler drops out?

The deadline for dropping out in South Dakota has long past.  It was last month.  Anyone who drops out will remain on the ballot.

Oh, cinyc. You don't understand, do you? Petty matters like legal ballot deadlines don't matter to the notorious ballot shysters in the opposition party. 

Are u referring to Kansas or just doing your normal condescension?

Kansas and various other states where the Dems, set to lose, try to pull a magic ballot act and then whine on the rare occasion when the law triumphs.

Kobach is a partisan hack who doesn't give a damn about the law. If the situation were reversed, he'd still rule in favor of the GOP.

Exhibit #535,753 why SoS should not be a partisan office.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 10, 2014, 11:36:44 PM
Quote
Rounds (R)- 44%
Weiland (D)- 42%

whoa

Is there a chance Pressler drops out?

The deadline for dropping out in South Dakota has long past.  It was last month.  Anyone who drops out will remain on the ballot.

Oh, cinyc. You don't understand, do you? Petty matters like legal ballot deadlines don't matter to the notorious ballot shysters in the opposition party. 

Are u referring to Kansas or just doing your normal condescension?

Kansas and various other states where the Dems, set to lose, try to pull a magic ballot act and then whine on the rare occasion when the law triumphs.

Kobach is a partisan hack who doesn't give a damn about the law. If the situation were reversed, he'd still rule in favor of the GOP.

Exhibit #535,753 why SoS should not be a partisan office.

Did he follow the law or not in this case?


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: DrScholl on September 11, 2014, 12:45:03 AM
In Nebraska, Republicans removed their violent Lt. Governor nominee from the ballot, even though the deadline passed. So, yeah, you might not want to rethink your comment.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Brittain33 on September 11, 2014, 06:09:57 AM
Seriously, Phil, don't go back to where you were a few years ago.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 11, 2014, 07:14:23 AM
In Nebraska, Republicans removed their violent Lt. Governor nominee from the ballot, even though the deadline passed. So, yeah, you might not want to rethink your comment.

Right...and it's wrong there, too.

Seriously, Phil, don't go back to where you were a few years ago.

Yes, the [insert "Phil, you're a bad, bad boy!" line here when you don't want to respectfully answer or even kindly disagree] has been satisfied for this thread.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Brittain33 on September 11, 2014, 08:38:59 AM
Yes, the [insert "Phil, you're a bad, bad boy!" line here when you don't want to respectfully answer or even kindly disagree] has been satisfied for this thread.

I'll make a deal with you. I'll respectfully answer of kindly disagree to the large majority of posts you make. To the sarcastic comments being posted on literally every poll thread in this group, I'll call you a bad, bad boy. Sounds fair? :)


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on September 11, 2014, 09:38:49 AM
I think it would be more helpful if Weiland dropped out, if defeating Rounds is the aim. I guess Weiland has a higher floor than Pressler, but a lower ceiling. Pressler getting a majority is much more likely than Weiland getting one.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Mehmentum on September 12, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
Time for the Kansas strategy, I think.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: Vega on September 12, 2014, 06:41:45 PM
As others have pointed out, as we're past the deadline, a candidate who would drop out would remain on the ballot.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: IceSpear on September 12, 2014, 07:00:40 PM
As others have pointed out, as we're past the deadline, a candidate who would drop out would remain on the ballot.

That's fine. Dems wanted Kendrick Meek to drop out in 2010 even though he would've stayed on the ballot. It at least presents a shot, whereas neither of Weiland/Pressler have a chance in a three way race.


Title: Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie
Post by: MalaspinaGold on September 12, 2014, 08:47:00 PM
They should have Pressler publicly endorse Weiland in exchange for something down the road (governor when Daugaard retires?)

Considering Noem's habit of underperforming, Weiland might be a good candidate against her in 2016.