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Election Archive => 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls => Topic started by: Tender Branson on August 29, 2014, 11:04:25 AM



Title: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Tender Branson on August 29, 2014, 11:04:25 AM
New Poll: Vermont Governor by Rasmussen on 2014-08-29 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/GOVERNOR/2014/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=5020140829016)

Summary: D: 48%, R: 36%, I: 0%, U: 16%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2014/vermont/election_2014_vermont_governor)


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: ElectionsGuy on August 29, 2014, 12:24:45 PM
What a weak showing for Shumlin. But I guess this could be just one bad poll.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Vega on August 29, 2014, 12:52:38 PM
I don't get Vermont.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Never on August 29, 2014, 01:00:56 PM


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on August 29, 2014, 01:31:47 PM
Wow, this is actually on the remote edges of being competitive. But Shumlin will obviously still win.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Matty on August 29, 2014, 03:36:56 PM
Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Vega on August 29, 2014, 06:07:47 PM
Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

Yeah. I just don't understand how a state could elect a Senator like Bernie Sanders twice comfortably, and have the Democratic Governor leading by less than 20.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Miles on August 29, 2014, 06:23:38 PM
YouGov was actually really generous to Shumlin, if this is true.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: IceSpear on August 29, 2014, 06:26:06 PM
YouGov was actually really generous to Shumlin, if this is true.

Well, whatever the Republican's name is probably got a post primary bump.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: KCDem on August 29, 2014, 06:27:13 PM
This is Rasmussen, folks. Moving along...


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: SWE on August 29, 2014, 08:27:51 PM
Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.
Presumably the Vermont's GOP is dramatically different from the National GOP


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on August 29, 2014, 09:19:22 PM
Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.
Presumably the Vermont's GOP is dramatically different from the National GOP

If only the national GOP was more like the Vermont GOP then. :P


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: GaussLaw on August 29, 2014, 09:28:15 PM
Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

Yeah. I just don't understand how a state could elect a Senator like Bernie Sanders twice comfortably, and have the Democratic Governor leading by less than 20.

Yeah, Vermont has a Republican lieutenant governor who won with 57% in 2012, basically getting nearly 1/2 of Obama voters.  It's just incredible.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Vega on August 29, 2014, 09:36:24 PM
Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

Yeah. I just don't understand how a state could elect a Senator like Bernie Sanders twice comfortably, and have the Democratic Governor leading by less than 20.

Yeah, Vermont has a Republican lieutenant governor who won with 57% in 2012, basically getting nearly 1/2 of Obama voters.  It's just incredible.

His name is Phil Scott - he's a real stand up guy in my opinion. Probably my favorite Republican in New England.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: GaussLaw on August 29, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

Yeah. I just don't understand how a state could elect a Senator like Bernie Sanders twice comfortably, and have the Democratic Governor leading by less than 20.

Yeah, Vermont has a Republican lieutenant governor who won with 57% in 2012, basically getting nearly 1/2 of Obama voters.  It's just incredible.

His name is Phil Scott - he's a real stand up guy in my opinion. Probably my favorite Republican in New England.

If I were one of the Democrats who lost to him (in 2010 or 2012), I'd feel pretty bad.  Losing a statewide race in Vermont as a Democrat seems pretty embarrassing, even if they have some local GOP influence.

What did Phil Scott do to make himself so popular?  In 2010, Shumlin barely won so it's not too surprising that he got in.  But he increased his support from 2010 to 2012.  That's an impressive feat.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: smoltchanov on August 30, 2014, 04:32:21 AM
Far from stellar numbers for Shumlin. And Obama's popularity in state (according to Gallup) is modest 44 too. Would Scott run against Shumlin (instead of preferring to wait) - it would be an extremely interesting race..


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Vega on August 30, 2014, 09:14:49 AM
What did Phil Scott do to make himself so popular?  In 2010, Shumlin barely won so it's not too surprising that he got in.  But he increased his support from 2010 to 2012.  That's an impressive feat.

He's just been a moderate. Really, he's not done anything special.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: smoltchanov on August 30, 2014, 09:39:47 AM
What did Phil Scott do to make himself so popular?  In 2010, Shumlin barely won so it's not too surprising that he got in.  But he increased his support from 2010 to 2012.  That's an impressive feat.

He's just been a moderate. Really, he's not done anything special.

I would say - authentic moderate. Sorry, there are few of them in Republican party. And not long ago there were people like Jacob Javits, who was an authentic liberal. Nothing like that now..


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Rockefeller GOP on August 31, 2014, 06:09:33 PM
Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

They do, and it is.  I have said this several times: people in upper New England are not overly comfortable with the idea of being loyal Democrats, but they certainly aren't comfortable with the national GOP's catering to social conservatives.  Moderate Republicans can still do quite well in the region.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: smoltchanov on August 31, 2014, 11:50:43 PM
Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

They do, and it is.  I have said this several times: people in upper New England are not overly comfortable with the idea of being loyal Democrats, but they certainly aren't comfortable with the national GOP's catering to social conservatives.  Moderate Republicans can still do quite well in the region.

Agree. Even Milne, who did very little campaigning and is relatively little known, looks at least decent in the last poll. Scott could even be ahead...


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: Panda Express on September 01, 2014, 02:05:41 AM
Eh, like Mead, I've never had the impression Shumlin was *super* popular. He barely won in 2010 and underperformed Obama a lot in 2012.


Title: Re: VT: Rasmussen: Gov. Shumlin (D) ahead
Post by: smoltchanov on September 01, 2014, 04:25:57 AM
Eh, like Mead, I've never had the impression Shumlin was *super* popular. He barely won in 2010 and underperformed Obama a lot in 2012.

2010 was very good Republican year and his opponent was sitting Lt. Governor. But, yes, it seems he isn't too popular. Only "general" strong Democratic leanings of Vermont put him out of danger so far..