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Title: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Mr. Morden on November 05, 2012, 08:54:48 AM Polls open in two hours in Vermont. Until the exit poll #s start coming out after 5pm Eastern, this is all we have to discuss: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks. Post any news you have on that front in this thread.
For something to talk about right now, here's the current national weather map: () Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Mr. Morden on November 06, 2012, 03:05:29 AM And also a public service message:
On election night, the traffic will likely be very high. We'll have an omnibus presidential election results thread, and my suggestion is that if you want to keep your sanity, you set your profile settings so that you don't have to deal with the "x new replies have been posted, you might want to review your post" message when posting in a thread where other people have posted ahead of you. To do so, just do the following: profile -> look and layout preferences -> Don't warn on new replies made while posting. You don't have to do this if you don't want to, but I bet it would save you some frustration! Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Adam Griffin on November 06, 2012, 03:15:58 AM Yep, it's raining here right now and is supposed to continue all morning long and into the afternoon.
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Franzl on November 06, 2012, 03:33:04 AM So how terrible are the "voting problems" going to get today?
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Eraserhead on November 06, 2012, 04:27:40 AM So how terrible are the "voting problems" going to get today? Horrendously terrible? Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Franzl on November 06, 2012, 04:46:36 AM So how terrible are the "voting problems" going to get today? Horrendously terrible? Is it actually going to be awful somewhere or have improvements been made anywhere so people don't have to wait 6 hours to vote? Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Tender Branson on November 06, 2012, 05:04:05 AM So how terrible are the "voting problems" going to get today? Horrendously terrible? Is it actually going to be awful somewhere or have improvements been made anywhere so people don't have to wait 6 hours to vote? I always wonder why it is so difficult in the US to set up enough precincts, so that there are only 500-1000 voters per precinct, like it is the case here ? What would certain parts of the US do if 85-90% of the VAP turn out, instead of the 56-58% that is expected today ? Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Mr. Morden on November 06, 2012, 06:08:08 AM Polls are open in several eastern states now. Also, here's a roundup of stories on voting irregularities up through last night:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/11/05/roundup-voter-irregularities/ Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Wisconsin+17 on November 06, 2012, 06:12:47 AM Mr. Morden can you post up the atlasia chat again? I have lost the link.
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Tender Branson on November 06, 2012, 07:05:11 AM The BBC has a live stream and live updates from voters etc.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20009190 Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Bacon King on November 06, 2012, 07:12:01 AM Mr. Morden can you post up the atlasia chat again? I have lost the link. www.mibbit.com #atlaschat Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: BlueSwan on November 06, 2012, 07:12:50 AM Hearing about 11 hour lines in past elections have just dumbfounded me. In Denmark about 85% of eligible voters vote in parlamentary elections. I myself have now voted in 6 parlamentary elections (held every 4 years as a general rule) and I have never ever dealt with line issues. We're talking an absolute maximum of 2-3 minutes of waiting in any of the elections I have participated in. It really should not be difficult for a modern civilized nation to provide enough voting booths for people to exercise their democratic rights without too much fuss.
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Franzl on November 06, 2012, 07:23:46 AM It really should not be difficult for a modern civilized nation to provide enough voting booths for people to exercise their democratic rights without too much fuss. One of the parties has a strategic interest in making it as hard as possible to vote. It's not a matter of wanting to but not being able to set up a reasonable voting system. Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Adam Griffin on November 06, 2012, 07:37:28 AM Random: Obama's latest status update is accumulating about 60 Likes per second on Facebook:
() No Facebook updates from Mitt Romney's facebook page since yesterday afternoon. Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: J. J. on November 06, 2012, 08:00:35 AM Since 1:00 AM this morning, I have received three e-mails reminding me to vote. I think I had about 7 prior to that.
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Hatman 🍁 on November 06, 2012, 08:04:54 AM Hearing about 11 hour lines in past elections have just dumbfounded me. In Denmark about 85% of eligible voters vote in parlamentary elections. I myself have now voted in 6 parlamentary elections (held every 4 years as a general rule) and I have never ever dealt with line issues. We're talking an absolute maximum of 2-3 minutes of waiting in any of the elections I have participated in. It really should not be difficult for a modern civilized nation to provide enough voting booths for people to exercise their democratic rights without too much fuss. Yeah, I've never really encountered much of a line either. But then again, the turnout in my precinct is usually 40%. Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Franzl on November 06, 2012, 08:07:01 AM Hearing about 11 hour lines in past elections have just dumbfounded me. In Denmark about 85% of eligible voters vote in parlamentary elections. I myself have now voted in 6 parlamentary elections (held every 4 years as a general rule) and I have never ever dealt with line issues. We're talking an absolute maximum of 2-3 minutes of waiting in any of the elections I have participated in. It really should not be difficult for a modern civilized nation to provide enough voting booths for people to exercise their democratic rights without too much fuss. Yeah, I've never really encountered much of a line either. But then again, the turnout in my precinct is usually 40%. But you, and the Danish and we in Germany....etc., don't have partisan Republicans running elections designed to be as convenient as possible for their candidates. Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Holmes on November 06, 2012, 08:08:31 AM There's also a significantly smaller amount of races on the ballot, at least here in Canada.
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Tender Branson on November 06, 2012, 08:09:07 AM Yeah, here too. I have voted several times now in 2006, 2008 and 2009 and 2010 and as soon as I went in I was able to vote. I don't think that you have to wait 10 minutes or so even in bigger places like Vienna.
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: J. J. on November 06, 2012, 08:09:56 AM At mine, you get a line from 7-8 AM, and it has been smooth the rest of the day.
KYW has described a polling station in the Roxborough section of the city as "brisk." Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Franzl on November 06, 2012, 08:10:50 AM Yeah, here too. I have voted several times now in 2006, 2008 and 2009 and 2010 and as soon as I went in I was able to vote. I don't think that you have to wait 10 minutes or so even in bigger places like Vienna. We had some problems in Hessen in the 2008 election, I believe, when we did an experiment with electronic voting in certain precincts. The machines broke down and caused waits up to 45 minutes. We then decided...because of that among broader safety concerns....to never do it again. Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Tender Branson on November 06, 2012, 08:11:41 AM Yeah, here too. I have voted several times now in 2006, 2008 and 2009 and 2010 and as soon as I went in I was able to vote. I don't think that you have to wait 10 minutes or so even in bigger places like Vienna. We had some problems in Hessen in the 2008 election, I believe, when we did an experiment with electronic voting in certain precincts. The machines broke down and caused waits up to 45 minutes. We then decided...because of that among broader safety concerns....to never do it again. Good choice ... ;) Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Tender Branson on November 06, 2012, 08:30:17 AM FYI:
() Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Eraserhead on November 06, 2012, 08:33:57 AM NY = The Best.
The polls should be open until at least 9 PM everywhere. Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: dirks on November 06, 2012, 08:55:12 AM some early good news
Dave Wasserman Tweet (Cook Political Report) OHIO EARLY VOTE: More troubling #s for Obama than in VA. Turnout down 4.1% vs. ‘08 in Kerry/Obama counties, UP 14.4% in Bush/McCain counties Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: dirks on November 06, 2012, 09:04:47 AM Quote Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) tweeted at 12:22am - 6 Nov 12: @fivethirtyeight OH data seems high quality, and we're possibly on track for a significantly different turnout model vs. '08...(1/2) Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) tweeted at 12:27am - 6 Nov 12: By my calc, in '08, 24.8% of registered voters in Obama's OH counties voted early, 19.1% in McCain. Today, 21.7% Obama and 21.3% McCain hmmm...well PPP, looks like you have some splainin to do! Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Reaganfan on November 06, 2012, 09:10:09 AM Yeah, here too. I have voted several times now in 2006, 2008 and 2009 and 2010 and as soon as I went in I was able to vote. I don't think that you have to wait 10 minutes or so even in bigger places like Vienna. The only reason to vote in Vienna is for sausages and Billy Joel songs... Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: John_Engle on November 06, 2012, 09:13:38 AM the People should go vote it is duty for America
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: dirks on November 06, 2012, 09:20:17 AM Quote Dave WassermanOH EARLY VOTE: Early turnout more than doubled in Richland and Wayne (both strong R counties), presumably b/c of Husted’s uniform rules about an hour ago Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: rockhound on November 06, 2012, 09:21:24 AM Hearing about 11 hour lines in past elections have just dumbfounded me. In Denmark about 85% of eligible voters vote in parlamentary elections. I myself have now voted in 6 parlamentary elections (held every 4 years as a general rule) and I have never ever dealt with line issues. We're talking an absolute maximum of 2-3 minutes of waiting in any of the elections I have participated in. It really should not be difficult for a modern civilized nation to provide enough voting booths for people to exercise their democratic rights without too much fuss. Yeah, I've never really encountered much of a line either. But then again, the turnout in my precinct is usually 40%. But you, and the Danish and we in Germany....etc., don't have partisan Republicans running elections designed to be as convenient as possible for their candidates. Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Adam Griffin on November 06, 2012, 09:26:52 AM I just received a fairly credible tip that Obama was up by 300,000 votes in the final early voting count in Georgia.
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: J. J. on November 06, 2012, 09:30:03 AM From Nate Silver:
Quote @Redistrict: I'll stick with the 538 forecast in OH. I disagree that the early voting data there provides much reason to doubt the polls. Interesting. Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: J. J. on November 06, 2012, 09:38:30 AM Fox: Turnout in southern NH is higher than 2008.
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: dirks on November 06, 2012, 09:58:13 AM Quote So says Gannett’s Cincinnati.com, which has the data from the state government posted at its site this morning. I put the question mark on the data because I don’t see anything up yet at the Ohio Secretary of State’s website, but occasionally the media will get updates prior to the website. According to the data, Mitt Romney already has 697,143 votes before the polls opened a couple of hours ago, while Barack Obama only has 605,546, a difference of almost 92,000 votes. The data is time-stamped at 2:03 ET this morning, and the link on the front page of the site reads, “Early voters: How Ohio has voted.” A few counties have not yet reported any early-voting results, but one county in particular looks huge. Cuyahoga, which includes Cleveland, should be a Democratic stronghold, and perhaps the one area where Democratic early-voting efforts should have produced their biggest lead. Instead, Romney has a lead of about 14,000 votes already, 127,570 to 113,373. In Hamilton County, where Cincinnati itself is located, Romney leads by over 5,000, 29,969 to 24,808. A quick scan of the data shows Romney leading in every county with more than 25,000 EVs. This may be a very big deal, if these numbers are correct. Obama had a big lead in EVs before Election Day in 2008, which allowed him to withstand the GOP’s better turnout on the day itself. Frankly, Team Romney might have been thrilled to be trailing by 92K at this juncture. To be ahead in early voting portends a big Republican turnout in the Buckeye State, and perhaps an early night for all of us. We’ll see, but this is the first indication of unforeseen Romney strength in this election. http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/06/romney-up-92k-in-oh-early-voting/ Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: dirks on November 06, 2012, 10:00:57 AM From Nate Silver: Quote @Redistrict: I'll stick with the 538 forecast in OH. I disagree that the early voting data there provides much reason to doubt the polls. Interesting. well, the kid is going down with the ship Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Eraserhead on November 06, 2012, 10:01:49 AM Quote So says Gannett’s Cincinnati.com, which has the data from the state government posted at its site this morning. I put the question mark on the data because I don’t see anything up yet at the Ohio Secretary of State’s website, but occasionally the media will get updates prior to the website. According to the data, Mitt Romney already has 697,143 votes before the polls opened a couple of hours ago, while Barack Obama only has 605,546, a difference of almost 92,000 votes. The data is time-stamped at 2:03 ET this morning, and the link on the front page of the site reads, “Early voters: How Ohio has voted.” A few counties have not yet reported any early-voting results, but one county in particular looks huge. Cuyahoga, which includes Cleveland, should be a Democratic stronghold, and perhaps the one area where Democratic early-voting efforts should have produced their biggest lead. Instead, Romney has a lead of about 14,000 votes already, 127,570 to 113,373. In Hamilton County, where Cincinnati itself is located, Romney leads by over 5,000, 29,969 to 24,808. A quick scan of the data shows Romney leading in every county with more than 25,000 EVs. This may be a very big deal, if these numbers are correct. Obama had a big lead in EVs before Election Day in 2008, which allowed him to withstand the GOP’s better turnout on the day itself. Frankly, Team Romney might have been thrilled to be trailing by 92K at this juncture. To be ahead in early voting portends a big Republican turnout in the Buckeye State, and perhaps an early night for all of us. We’ll see, but this is the first indication of unforeseen Romney strength in this election. http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/06/romney-up-92k-in-oh-early-voting/ They've already pulled the link. lol. Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: dirks on November 06, 2012, 10:03:31 AM Quote So says Gannett’s Cincinnati.com, which has the data from the state government posted at its site this morning. I put the question mark on the data because I don’t see anything up yet at the Ohio Secretary of State’s website, but occasionally the media will get updates prior to the website. According to the data, Mitt Romney already has 697,143 votes before the polls opened a couple of hours ago, while Barack Obama only has 605,546, a difference of almost 92,000 votes. The data is time-stamped at 2:03 ET this morning, and the link on the front page of the site reads, “Early voters: How Ohio has voted.” A few counties have not yet reported any early-voting results, but one county in particular looks huge. Cuyahoga, which includes Cleveland, should be a Democratic stronghold, and perhaps the one area where Democratic early-voting efforts should have produced their biggest lead. Instead, Romney has a lead of about 14,000 votes already, 127,570 to 113,373. In Hamilton County, where Cincinnati itself is located, Romney leads by over 5,000, 29,969 to 24,808. A quick scan of the data shows Romney leading in every county with more than 25,000 EVs. This may be a very big deal, if these numbers are correct. Obama had a big lead in EVs before Election Day in 2008, which allowed him to withstand the GOP’s better turnout on the day itself. Frankly, Team Romney might have been thrilled to be trailing by 92K at this juncture. To be ahead in early voting portends a big Republican turnout in the Buckeye State, and perhaps an early night for all of us. We’ll see, but this is the first indication of unforeseen Romney strength in this election. http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/06/romney-up-92k-in-oh-early-voting/ They've already pulled the link. lol. cat's out of the bag already Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 06, 2012, 10:19:16 AM Fitting that you're posting links to a website called "hotair.com".
Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: dirks on November 06, 2012, 10:23:39 AM Fitting that you're posting links to a website called "hotair.com". libs already in a tizzy! Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: Oakvale on November 07, 2012, 01:53:02 AM Fitting that you're posting links to a website called "hotair.com". libs already in a tizzy! ... ... ... () Title: Re: turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks Post by: J. J. on November 07, 2012, 01:53:41 AM From Nate Silver: Quote @Redistrict: I'll stick with the 538 forecast in OH. I disagree that the early voting data there provides much reason to doubt the polls. Interesting. well, the kid is going down with the ship In all fairness, there doesn't seem to be strong correlation between results and early voting. |