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Title: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: A18 on January 11, 2005, 11:49:57 AM
Who's your favorite president of the 19th century?


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: PBrunsel on January 11, 2005, 11:56:53 AM
William McKinley, i'll post my reasons soon.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 11, 2005, 12:16:57 PM
Lincoln


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: Hitchabrut on January 11, 2005, 02:17:00 PM
John Adams


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: True Democrat on January 11, 2005, 05:00:59 PM

I agree


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: skybridge on January 11, 2005, 05:18:48 PM
Why did we ever do away with those Alien and Sedition Acts?


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: Schmitz in 1972 on January 11, 2005, 06:13:23 PM
Pierce, because he had to overcome a hugh personal tragedy to serve, and when he did, he never once violated the Constitution unlike so many other presidents. For those of you who don't know about the tragedy which I refer to it was this: shortly before Pierce journeyed to Washington for his inauguration his only child, Bennie, was killed in a horrific train crash before his eyes.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: Erc on January 11, 2005, 07:11:02 PM
You left out Chester Arthur.  Not that anyone would vote for him anyway.

Either Garfield or Cleveland for me...and I pick Cleveland.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: A18 on January 11, 2005, 07:51:27 PM
You left out Chester Arthur.  Not that anyone would vote for him anyway.

Either Garfield or Cleveland for me...and I pick Cleveland.

What do you like about Garfield?

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William McKinley, i'll post my reasons soon.

Now would be a good time. ;)


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: PBrunsel on January 11, 2005, 09:42:33 PM
I say the greatest president is William McKinley. He made us a superpower (with some help of yellow journalism :) ) McKinley got the U.S. Puerot Rico, the Phillipines, Guam, and countless other islands through the Spanish-American War. He also opened the door with China with his, get this, "Open Door Policy." The U.S. got to dictate who got into China!

McKinley also backed sound money in the form of the Gold Standard. His administration, sometimes known as "The Second Era of Good Feelings", produced a strong economy, after a long ressesion caused by the Panic of 1893. The McKinley Years were the age of Captains of Industry, Ragtime, the Alaska Gold Rush, and the U.S. finaly became the greatest industrial power on Earth (take that England! :) )

McKinley also treated the presidency with great respect. He always deressed up (wearing a top hat, pinstripe pants, a starched white shirt, a silk tie, a felt over coat, and a red carnation in his lapel!) He was very kind to his wife (Ida Saxton McKinley) for she suffered from epleptic seizures. As Governor of Ohio (1894-1896) he would wave to his wife from his office window at precisely 3 O'Clock in the afternoon. As president, he broke with traditon to have his wife sit by him at state dinners. When she would have a seizure he would simply drop a soft silk napkin over her face, and tell everyone to continue chatting and eating. Some husbands complained McKinley mde them look bad.

When he was shot by Leon Czolgos, a deranged anarchist, at the Temple of Music durring the Pan-American Exposition in Bufffalo, New York, MckInley told the police to not harm his assasin! He also told his personal secretary to, "Be careful how you tell my wife, do be careful."

William McKinely has to be our best U.S


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: skybridge on January 12, 2005, 03:11:48 AM
I've heard this a couple times now, but may I ask for a more in-depth explanation just how McKinley supposedly made the US an industrial superpower?


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: PBrunsel on January 12, 2005, 06:28:38 PM
I've heard this a couple times now, but may I ask for a more in-depth explanation just how McKinley supposedly made the US an industrial superpower?

He let business be business and make it free from government intrusion.

For the 19th Century high tariffs helped American industry grow becuase it was free from foreign competition, but we were primarily America First back then.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: J.R. Brown on January 13, 2005, 05:44:33 AM
Lincoln


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: Dr. Cynic on January 19, 2005, 06:44:05 PM
A tie between Lincoln and McKinley.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: J. J. on January 19, 2005, 07:50:28 PM

I'd go with Lincoln, but only because the crisis was greater.  McKinley would be second.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: Beet on January 19, 2005, 08:15:19 PM
Lincoln, then Jefferson (opening up all the land west of the Mississippi has to count for something, right?


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: minionofmidas on February 02, 2005, 08:50:56 AM
Favorite as in a personal favorite not based on any policies?
Andrew Johnson of course. Only US president to ever emerge from urban poverty.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: Notre Dame rules! on February 02, 2005, 11:30:26 PM
How can you guys choose anyone other than Lincoln?  He saved the nation for God's sake!  That trumps everything.  .

Had it not been for Lincoln, the list of Presidents to choose from would be much larger as all of us living in the old Confederacy would have a very different list of Presidents to choose from.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: RJ on February 03, 2005, 12:12:47 AM
Just assume for a second everyone thinks it's Lincoln, although I keep hearing Mckinley(?)

I voted for Jackson. A real bastard. Unprecedented.First president to really put his own stamp on government. I'd certainly choose him over Mckinley myself, but that's just me...


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: A18 on February 03, 2005, 12:14:17 AM
He's a "real bastard" but he's your favorite 19th century president?


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: RJ on February 03, 2005, 12:36:03 AM
Well, yes. "A real bastard" is the best way I can think of to describe Old Hickory. I think he redefined the office. It takes a real bastard to do that and do some of the things he did, good or bad. Would you agree?


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: J. J. on February 03, 2005, 12:46:57 AM
Favorite as in a personal favorite not based on any policies?
Andrew Johnson of course. Only US president to ever emerge from urban poverty.


You ever hear of Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton?


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: skybridge on February 18, 2005, 11:59:08 AM
Here's the CSPAN rankings from the 19th century I posted in my thread

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Thomas Jefferson
3. James K. Polk
4. Andrew Jackson
5. James Monroe
6. William McKinley
7. John Adams
8. Grover Cleveland
9. James Madison
10. John Quincy Adams
11. Rutherford B. Hayes
12. Zachary Taylor
13. James Garfield
14. Martin Van Buren
15. Benjamin Harrison
16. Chester Arthur
17. Ulysses S. Grant
18. Millard Fillmore
19. John Tyler
20. William Henry Harrison
21. Franklin Pierce
22. Andrew Johnson
23. James Buchanan


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: Bugs on March 01, 2005, 12:02:08 PM
I voted for Lincoln, but also like Adams, Polk, and McKinley.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: The Dowager Mod on March 01, 2005, 12:27:42 PM
Jefferson.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: Rob on March 01, 2005, 07:21:08 PM
Lincoln.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: bgwah on March 02, 2005, 04:50:12 AM
I voted for Jackson, but I also liked Jefferson, Polk, Cleveland, I and guess McKinley too.

Lincoln was okay.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: skybridge on March 02, 2005, 08:26:33 AM
This one seems a lot more decisive than my thread about the 20th century presidents.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: KEmperor on March 02, 2005, 01:16:56 PM
I vote for Chester Alan Arthur, because you left him out.


Title: Re: Favorite president of the 19th century
Post by: Dave from Michigan on March 02, 2005, 09:59:13 PM
Lincoln