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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => Past Election What-ifs (US) => Topic started by: Free Palestine on July 17, 2010, 10:26:44 PM



Title: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Free Palestine on July 17, 2010, 10:26:44 PM
The two most unique members of Congress get nominated for president, for some reason.  Who would win?


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 17, 2010, 10:45:07 PM
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331-207


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: tpfkaw on July 17, 2010, 11:54:27 PM
Paul would be absolutely murdered. The newsletter controversy, compounded by his views on the Civil Rights Act, would absolutely kill him. Combine this with his views on Social Security (and everything else), and the fact that '08 was a very favorable year for Democrats overall, and it becomes a question of whether he can win any states at all.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: feeblepizza on July 19, 2010, 11:20:09 AM
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Paul/Schiff 305
Kucinich/? 233


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Free Palestine on July 19, 2010, 11:29:27 AM
I'd imagine Kucinich's VP would be someone like Sanders.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: tpfkaw on July 19, 2010, 03:30:32 PM
I'd imagine Kucinich's VP would be someone like Sanders.
He would probably pick a moderate. Bill Richardson?


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 19, 2010, 03:31:17 PM
I'd imagine Kucinich's VP would be someone like Sanders.
He would probably pick a moderate. Bill Richardson?

How about Blanche Lincoln? I'm sure that would flip some southern states.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: tpfkaw on July 20, 2010, 02:37:27 PM
How about Blanche Lincoln? I'm sure that would flip some southern states.
No. If John Edwards can't flip any southern states, then neither can Blanche Lincoln, especially if the nominee is Kucinich.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 20, 2010, 03:07:53 PM
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Paul : 54%, 337 EVs
Kucinich : 46%, 201 EVs

People are stupid.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on July 20, 2010, 03:21:13 PM
Paul/Paul

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Paul : 54%, 337 EVs
Kucinich : 46%, 201 EVs

People are stupid.

What the hell? Especially Ohio...he's the one Democrat who could ensure a Republican victory there.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on July 20, 2010, 03:30:08 PM
More people identify as conservative than liberal, so Paul by a longshot.

It all depends on how the public perceives them though.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Free Palestine on July 24, 2010, 01:33:02 PM
In this case, who doesn't vote is as important as who does vote.  The nominees being Paul and Kucinich would probably discourage much of the moderate base of either party from voting.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Bo on July 24, 2010, 03:45:41 PM

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Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Mechaman on July 24, 2010, 03:48:41 PM
Paul would be absolutely murdered. The newsletter controversy, compounded by his views on the Civil Rights Act, would absolutely kill him. Combine this with his views on Social Security (and everything else), and the fact that '08 was a very favorable year for Democrats overall, and it becomes a question of whether he can win any states at all.

You underestimate just how left Kucinich is.  I mean he is batsh*t insane left.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 24, 2010, 04:04:38 PM
In this case, who doesn't vote is as important as who does vote.  The nominees being Paul and Kucinich would probably discourage much of the moderate base of either party from voting.

That would be wonderful. This country would be such a better place to live if it weren't for the moderates....


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: tpfkaw on July 24, 2010, 05:48:54 PM
Paul would be absolutely murdered. The newsletter controversy, compounded by his views on the Civil Rights Act, would absolutely kill him. Combine this with his views on Social Security (and everything else), and the fact that '08 was a very favorable year for Democrats overall, and it becomes a question of whether he can win any states at all.

You underestimate just how left Kucinich is.  I mean he is batsh*t insane left.
The American people, sadly, would rather vote for a socialist than an (alleged) racist who wants to get rid of Social Security. Paul would have a hard time being elected if his opponent were Hugo Chavez.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 24, 2010, 06:00:42 PM
Paul would be absolutely murdered. The newsletter controversy, compounded by his views on the Civil Rights Act, would absolutely kill him. Combine this with his views on Social Security (and everything else), and the fact that '08 was a very favorable year for Democrats overall, and it becomes a question of whether he can win any states at all.

You underestimate just how left Kucinich is.  I mean he is batsh*t insane left.
The American people, sadly, would rather vote for a socialist than an (alleged) racist who wants to get rid of Social Security. Paul would have a hard time being elected if his opponent were Hugo Chavez.

Um, no.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: tpfkaw on July 24, 2010, 10:06:25 PM
Paul would be absolutely murdered. The newsletter controversy, compounded by his views on the Civil Rights Act, would absolutely kill him. Combine this with his views on Social Security (and everything else), and the fact that '08 was a very favorable year for Democrats overall, and it becomes a question of whether he can win any states at all.

You underestimate just how left Kucinich is.  I mean he is batsh*t insane left.
The American people, sadly, would rather vote for a socialist than an (alleged) racist who wants to get rid of Social Security. Paul would have a hard time being elected if his opponent were Hugo Chavez.

Um, no.
Um, yes.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 25, 2010, 03:21:08 AM
Sadly, I think Libertas is right. People are stupid enough to to vote for this crazy nutjob rather than for a OMG SOSHULIST OMG !!!


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 25, 2010, 03:24:28 AM
Sadly, I think Libertas is right. People are stupid enough to to vote for this crazy nutjob rather than for a OMG SOSHULIST OMG !!!

Neither of these candidates are "crazy nutjobs". ::)


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: DS0816 on July 25, 2010, 02:51:42 PM
ELECTION 2008

Ron Paul [R-Texas] vs. Dennis Kucinich [D-Ohio]

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Ron Paul 43.6% | Dennis Kucinich 54.7%



Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: feeblepizza on July 25, 2010, 05:38:08 PM
ELECTION 2008

Ron Paul [R-Texas] vs. Dennis Kucinich [D-Ohio]

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Ron Paul 43.6% | Dennis Kucinich 54.7%



lolololololololololol a hippie like Kucinich could never win in the South


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on July 25, 2010, 05:45:01 PM
ELECTION 2008

Ron Paul [R-Texas] vs. Dennis Kucinich [D-Ohio]

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Ron Paul 43.6% | Dennis Kucinich 54.7%



lolololololololololol a hippie like Kucinich could never win in the South

Fix'd

And don't worry about the "red" South, he just has the colors backwards.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: feeblepizza on July 25, 2010, 06:09:24 PM
ELECTION 2008

Ron Paul [R-Texas] vs. Dennis Kucinich [D-Ohio]

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Ron Paul 43.6% | Dennis Kucinich 54.7%



lolololololololololol a hippie like Kucinich could never win in the South

Fix'd

And don't worry about the "red" South, he just has the colors backwards.

Kucinich wins AR, NC, VA, KY, VA, WV, TN and FL here


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: tpfkaw on July 25, 2010, 07:27:59 PM
The idea that elderly people in Florida would vote for someone who wants to take away their Social Security is ludicrous.


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 26, 2010, 05:31:16 AM
ELECTION 2008

Ron Paul [R-Texas] vs. Dennis Kucinich [D-Ohio]

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Ron Paul 43.6% | Dennis Kucinich 54.7%

Please, please, at least use the right colors ! :(


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Yelnoc on July 26, 2010, 01:39:35 PM
The only thing I can think of is "Voter Turnout at Historic Lows".

Maybe the Independence Party runs a candidate?


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 26, 2010, 09:22:13 PM
The only thing I can think of is "Voter Turnout at Historic Lows".

Maybe the Independence Party runs a candidate?

Why would that necessarily be the case? A lot of people stay home because they don't like being forced to choose between two boring centrist candidates that are nearly identical...


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on July 26, 2010, 09:29:59 PM
The only thing I can think of is "Voter Turnout at Historic Lows".

Maybe the Independence Party runs a candidate?

Why would that necessarily be the case? A lot of people stay home because they don't like being forced to choose between two boring centrist candidates that are nearly identical...

Are you talking about radical racist and hippy midget or other candidates?


Title: Re: 2008: Paul (R) vs Kucinich (D)
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 29, 2010, 06:04:53 PM
Interestingly, Dennis Kucinich would have been "absolutely" open to running on a ticket with Ron Paul in 2008, at least according to his wife. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/24/elizabeth-kucinich-my-hus_n_73948.html)