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« on: June 21, 2010, 12:28:28 PM »

Most of Africa and the Middle East has better laws regarding abortion than the U.S.

Yeah and a number of those states also have the death penalty for homosexuality.

So? That has nothing to do with abortion laws.

Oh really?  I think there is quite a trend between states that have banned abortion and those that have banned (on penalty of death) homosexuality.  Context is key, I for one would rather live in a nation where everyone's right to their own body, including women and homosexuals, is thorougly respected:

States that have both illegalized abortion (except in cases of maternal life, health, and/or mental health) and the death penalty for homosexuality (in no particular order):

Afghanistan
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
United Arab Emirates
Sudan
Mauritania
Somalia (the parts that are governed)
Nigeria (under areas ruled under Sharia law)

And that's just states that have both banned abortion and have death penalty for homosexuals, the number for those that have life imprisonment for homosexuality and bans on abortion is quite a bit higher.

That is because most states that have banned abortion have done it for conservative sexuality-based reasons rather than for more progressive human rights-based reasons, unfortunately. These countries would be more "anti-choice" than "pro-life" in their take on the issue.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 01:07:27 PM »


I don't know if the Vatican has female citizens at all. Isn't the state's population (lol) just made up of clergy and Swiss Guard?

Actually according to the UN stats, Vatican City is 52% female. There a some orders of nuns there, I know.

Of the 557 Vatican citizens in 2005, 74% were clergy of some sort (10% Cardinals, 53% other ordained, remaining 11% could include nuns, I think), 18% were Swiss guard, and 8% were lay people. Of those 43 lay people, most are probably male, but any spouses of male lay people can also be Vatican citizens, meaning there are probably a dozen or so women who any abortion-related laws could pertain too, not that there would ever be anywhere to get an abortion in Vatican City.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 01:34:42 PM »

Yeah, I read that.

I was looking at these UN stats. They also list the total population as 784 in 2009, so maybe there has been a lot female immigration since 2005? Huh

The term "population" includes residents without citizenship, I think.

Correct.
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