Katie Hill resigning from office

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https://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2019/10/18/ca-rep.-katie-hill-allegedly-involved-female-staffer-2-yr-throuple-relationship

(It's Red State yes...but there's lots of photo evidence.)

Basically she started including one of her female staffers in a polyamorous relationship with her and her husband, ot to dump her to "focus on her Congressional career", when in fact she started having an affair with her Finance Director. Her husband found out and filed for divorce and all of this leaked possibly from her now estranged husband.

She should stand down in 2020 based on this I'd say.

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Why should she stand down?

It was a consensual relationship and it started before she became a congresswoman. Hill seems to actually be the victim here as this is a major violation of her privacy. Plus, it seems that the only places picking it up are right-wing outlets.

She could actually sue on the basis of revenge porn.

As long as relationships are consensual among adults, nobody should care. It's none of the public's business.

Neither her husband or the young staffer consented to her affair with her Finance Director.

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FF.

Leading a subordinate on, and then dumping her to have another affair while also cheating on who you're married to is totally a fight for freedom, right?

David Vitter, total FF!

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FF.

Leading a subordinate on, and then dumping her to have another affair while also cheating on who you're married to is totally a fight for freedom, right?

Do you believe in the "freedom of choice?"

Yes and I also believe people who make bad choices can be held accountable.

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If the President of the United States refuses to step down for breaking the law, then why should a member of Congress step down for doing nothing illegal?

Isn't it just rotten luck for the GOP that this didn't come out before the 2017 election? Lol. Anyway, this isn't right and Northam should resign.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

If the President of the United States refuses to step down for breaking the law, then why should a member of Congress step down for doing nothing illegal?

Isn't it just rotten luck for the GOP that this didn't come out before the 2017 election? Lol. Anyway, this isn't right and Northam should resign.

That is something that could call into question one's ability to govern fairly for all citizens.

And affairs also do as they could be used as blackmail evidence. This is why the FBI used to fire anyone who was found to be having one. Same principle with David Petraeus too.

The fact that Trump has eroded standards is not an argument for giving up on them entirely, it's also stupid whataboutery.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

If the President of the United States refuses to step down for breaking the law, then why should a member of Congress step down for doing nothing illegal?

Isn't it just rotten luck for the GOP that this didn't come out before the 2017 election? Lol. Anyway, this isn't right and Northam should resign.

That is something that could call into question one's ability to govern fairly for all citizens.

And affairs also do as they could be used as blackmail evidence. This is why the FBI used to fire anyone who was found to be having one. Same principle with David Petraeus too.

The fact that Trump has eroded standards is not an argument for giving up on them entirely, it's also stupid whataboutery.

Petraeus actually told information to his mistress. Classified and law enforcement positions are a lot more sensitive than other ones. I see know reason why a resignation is necessary. Get a life and some business of your own.

And I mentioned Trump because even some Democrats think that it's too over the top to expect him to resign, but will call for a Democrat to resign over much less.

Well I think Trump should resign and support impeaching him. So I'm not one of those people.

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The time for this sort of outrage is long past.

If Clinton didn't make it so, then Gingrich/Livingston did. If not them DesJarlais. If not him, Vitter's re-election in 2010.

Sad state of affairs, pretty much the inevitable conclusion of the "hook-up" culture, but it's just the reality now.

So Katie likes to be a part of a several rather than a few or a couple, big whoop at this point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Souder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Mahoney

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

If the President of the United States refuses to step down for breaking the law, then why should a member of Congress step down for doing nothing illegal?

Isn't it just rotten luck for the GOP that this didn't come out before the 2017 election? Lol. Anyway, this isn't right and Northam should resign.

That is something that could call into question one's ability to govern fairly for all citizens.

And affairs also do as they could be used as blackmail evidence. This is why the FBI used to fire anyone who was found to be having one. Same principle with David Petraeus too.

The fact that Trump has eroded standards is not an argument for giving up on them entirely, it's also stupid whataboutery.

So all politicians should be automatically disqualified for having an affair?

Yes?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

If the President of the United States refuses to step down for breaking the law, then why should a member of Congress step down for doing nothing illegal?

Isn't it just rotten luck for the GOP that this didn't come out before the 2017 election? Lol. Anyway, this isn't right and Northam should resign.

That is something that could call into question one's ability to govern fairly for all citizens.

And affairs also do as they could be used as blackmail evidence. This is why the FBI used to fire anyone who was found to be having one. Same principle with David Petraeus too.

The fact that Trump has eroded standards is not an argument for giving up on them entirely, it's also stupid whataboutery.

So all politicians should be automatically disqualified for having an affair?

Yes?

What really should matter is whether a politician does her/his job well, and disqualifying such person because of having an affair is just stupid, as long as said affair doesn't interfere with her or his performance. When you start to enforce an inflexible "personal morality" limitus test, it's going to do more damage than good.

In Hill's case, while sleeping with your staffer is pretty problematic (and if there's an indication of professionally inappropriate conduct, then she should resign), I'm not even sure we could call it an "affair", given she apparently is in open marriage.

That is not what I'm referring to as an affair. It's the one she had with her finance director without the staffer or her husband's consent. She basically cheated on two people.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7609835/Katie-Hill-seen-showing-Nazi-era-tattoo-smoking-BONG-NAKED.html

A few other photos leaked. One shows her smoking a bong before marijuana was legalized in California (file under "LOL who gives a sh**t), revelations that she and her ex-husband distributed her nude photos under sites called "wifeshare" and "WouldYouF[inks]MyWife" (file under "Probably not the public's but yikes") and...that she has a Nazi symbol tattoo (file under "HOLY SH!T)

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7609835/Katie-Hill-seen-showing-Nazi-era-tattoo-smoking-BONG-NAKED.html

A few other photos leaked. One shows her smoking a bong before marijuana was legalized in California (file under "LOL who gives a sh**t), revelations that she and her ex-husband distributed her nude photos under sites called "wifeshare" and "WouldYouF[inks]MyWife" (file under "Probably not the public's but yikes") and...that she has a Nazi symbol tattoo (file under "HOLY SH!T)

If Steve King had one, you would be up in arms asking for his public stoning

I would prefer neither her or Steve King run for re-election.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Get Duncan Hunter to resign next.

He probably literally will as in he's almost certainly going to be the next member of Congress to resign barring another scandal out of nowhere or him somehow being acquited.

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So when is Duncan Hunter resigning for using campaign funds on extramarital affairs with lobbyists and congressional staff?

When he's convicted no doubt, do probably pretty soon.

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If Jess Phoenix had ran and won, Hill's replacement would be even hotter.

Christy Smith though is actually kind of good looking, though much older:

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I just wanted to say, that as political scandals go, this is the first time where I felt 100% sympathetic to the politician.

I mean, the ethical concern with the relationship with the campaign staffer is real, but a fine or reprimand would have been sufficient. Her career was destroyed by an abusive ex.

He should go to prison, and she should run again in a couple years.

They both suck. He sucks for leaking the pictures obviously, she sucks for leading on a pretty vulnerable young staffer and dumping her when the relationship became inconvenient and also having unauthorized affairs.