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Democratic Hawk
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« on: April 20, 2009, 12:29:46 PM »

I'd be mainstream Democrat who views these tea parties very unfavorably

BTW, did these tea-parties ever occur when the inept George W Bush took the federal government from living within its means to living well beyond its means - thanks to his enriching the plutocratic elite, all the while the middle class stagnates and jobs, especially blue-collar, are outsourced

Never had much time for right-wing pseudo-populism espoused by Republicans and conservatives, as and when it suits their own elite (fat cat)-serving agenda

Fair taxation need not be punitive - and nothing this president is proposing is anything close to that

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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2009, 03:04:54 PM »

Alright, I'm calling BS on this one unless I see some other polls backing it up.

What seems inconceivable as far as this poll goes is that one in four say that they knew someone who attended a tea party. Now considering estimates put total attendance, nationally, at 250,000 to 300,000, I'd say the probability of knowing someone, who attended, is lower than that

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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2009, 03:29:49 PM »

I'd be mainstream Democrat who views these tea parties very unfavorably

I'm still registered Democratic but I find myself alienated and moving more to the right lately. I'm really not a fan of the Religious Right though so switching parties still seems unlikely.

This whole financial crisis, I dare say, has probably shifted me ever so slightly to the left. I'm no fan of the Religious Right though I am somewhat socially conservative

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We had more jobs outsourced here than outsourced overseas, and even then the percentage was miniscule. Off-shoring and general underemployment has been much more of a problem for the working to middle class than outsourcing, which almost totally effects the (generally high skills, well paid) tech industry. [/quote]

I've, obviously, made the error of interchanging outsourcing for offshoring

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I'm pretty sure not wanting hundreds of billions of dollars to go to corporate crooks is the opposite. I actually know a few leftists and anarchists elsewhere who attended. [/quote]

Yes, the bailouts are opposed by many on the Left as well as the Right but, ideologically, for very different reasons

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I disagree. If you factor in property tax, capital gains, etc. a lot of the professional and upper class is paying an enormous amount. My family is already paying well over 40% of their income in taxes as it is. With the proposed changes it's going to be over 50%. And really, what is 'fair' anyway? Even a lot of liberal Democrats here would balk at people paying more than 33% of their income, yet people are paying well over that in many cases (and not just millionaires). [/quote]

This is a section from a pm, of some time ago, with Mike Naso, which, basically, sums up where I stand on income tax


I'd favor letting the Bush cuts expire but favor another comprehensive reform package to replace it. As far as federal income tax is concerned; I'd be minded, if possible, to cut 10% to 5%, 15% to 10% and 25% to 20%, with new rates of 25%, 30%, 35% and 40%

I favor fair, progressive taxation but by no means punitive levels of taxation so anything beyond 40% is a no no. Were any Democrat to propose anything higher than 40%, lets just say it would be an issue with which I'm at variance

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2009, 05:30:07 PM »

Alright, I'm calling BS on this one unless I see some other polls backing it up.

What seems inconceivable as far as this poll goes is that one in four say that they knew someone who attended a tea party. Now considering estimates put total attendance, nationally, at 250,000 to 300,000, I'd say the probability of knowing someone, who attended, is lower than that

Dave

Actually, estimates are a lot higher than that. Try reading something other than Nate Silver.

http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=tea-party



Pjtv? Really?

Aren't they the ones who sent Joe the Plumber at Gaza as a war correspondent?

Okay, then here are 4 estimates. Three are higher than the range he said, and guess the one that lowballed the turnout? You guessed it! Nappy Nate Silver!

http://northshorejournal.org/tea-party-turnout-nationwide

Even at the maximum estimate it's still a derisory turnout considering all the hype Roll Eyes the tea-party protest day was given

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