Is anyone else getting Deja Vu from 2012 tonight?

[Yank2133]

No, because Obama was winning "before" the debate and lost the lead "after".   Trump never held the lead the entire time.

Also Obama was an incumbent so the debates naturally put Obama into the defensive position, while during these debates it's "mostly" Trump on defensive (so far).

He didn't even lose the lead.

On top of that Obama is a generational political talent and Trump is well Trump.

[Yank2133]

depends on only 2 questions.

1) the dislike for HRC is still soooo big that a restrained trump would instantly becoming the frontrunnter again.

2) trump being even able to copy a pence style...and melting his former stands into this.

She isn't popular, but the gap between her and Trump in terms of favorabilities is larger then the one between Obama and Romney.

[Yank2133]

She isn't popular, but the gap between her and Trump in terms of favorabilities is larger then the one between Obama and Romney.

you are absolutely right but something MUST going on or trump would not have been able to crawl back so many times.

either the polls are off or unpopular isn't enough to kill trump.

my hope would be that the undecided and the johnsonists are now converted....

He hasn't really crawled back. Clinton has consistently been ahead for the majority of the race, the only time Trump had the lead was during the RNC. Most of Trump's rising and falling numbers come from him doing better with the GOP, not with undecideds.