Rate the Presidents, Installment #16: Abraham Lincoln

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

An easy five stars. The right man for the most trying time in US history. He's not my absolute favorite President, but he's still easily in the top three. I can only imagine how much better off we would have been if he served 8-16 years.

[RINO Tom]

5 stars (proud Illinois Republican)!

Also, maybe socialist is the totally wrong claim (referencing Rockefeller GOP's post), but it IS truly funny when Southern neo-Confederates who'd probably describe themselves as "conservatives" 1) act like small government is inherently "conservative" and 2) act like the CSA was some sort of beacon for limited government and the power of the states.  I took an advanced Civil War class last year, and I'll back up that the CSA was anything but the decentralized utopia it preached to want (as has been mentioned, Davis also suspended several civil liberties, and the CSA government raised taxes on its citizens and confiscate private property from its citizens for the war effort ... Not to mention the eerily USSR-style decision to outlaw any political parties).  The CSA was definitely more "big government" during the war than the Union was, and it raised taxes much higher than Lincoln and his Congress did (let's not forget that Lincoln's "first income tax" was pitched as a wartime-only measure and actually expired once peace was won ... not to mention it was barely 3% of one's income).

Anyway, I can't reiterate enough: 5 stars.

[OSR stands with Israel]

5 stars easily, 2nd best president ever due to ending slavery and saving the union

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Tom, a lot of people mistake the Southern slave backed economy (stretching back to Jeffersonian musings) as "libertarian" due to their dislike of federal taxes, tariffs etc. when in reality it was more a sort Luddite parochialism that inspired them.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

5 stars (proud Illinois Republican)!

Also, maybe socialist is the totally wrong claim (referencing Rockefeller GOP's post), but it IS truly funny when Southern neo-Confederates who'd probably describe themselves as "conservatives" 1) act like small government is inherently "conservative" and 2) act like the CSA was some sort of beacon for limited government and the power of the states.  I took an advanced Civil War class last year, and I'll back up that the CSA was anything but the decentralized utopia it preached to want (as has been mentioned, Davis also suspended several civil liberties, and the CSA government raised taxes on its citizens and confiscate private property from its citizens for the war effort ... Not to mention the eerily USSR-style decision to outlaw any political parties).  The CSA was definitely more "big government" during the war than the Union was, and it raised taxes much higher than Lincoln and his Congress did (let's not forget that Lincoln's "first income tax" was pitched as a wartime-only measure and actually expired once peace was won ... not to mention it was barely 3% of one's income).

Anyway, I can't reiterate enough: 5 stars.

Even before the war, the hypocrisy was fully on display as pro-slavery Southern politicans screamed about state's rights only to insist that Northerners sacrifice their own state's rights to satisfy their demands.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The south was in rebellion, so he brought them back into Union, through force.  He was one of my favorites.

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Second to FDR. Obviously 5 stars compared to most of the Presidents .

[JonathanSwift]

Final Result: 4.45 Stars

[RTX]

War criminal

[Zioneer]

War criminal

Cool story bro. And the Confederates were what, exactly?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Never got a chance to vote, but obvious 5 is obvious. He had his bad qualities of course, but his historical significance cannot be understated.

[Rockefeller GOP]

War criminal

People like you are an absolute disgrace to this man's party.