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« Reply #150 on: October 26, 2017, 02:01:25 PM »

Today Puigdemont offered to organize anticipated elections in Catalonia against cancellation of the article 155 and the liberation of the two jailed association leaders. The central government refused.
Puigdemont decided to let the Catalan Parliament chose, they are now debating. Independentists in the Parliament are split between those who want to declare independence right now, and those who are ready to give up for this time.
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« Reply #151 on: October 26, 2017, 07:14:43 PM »

Today Puigdemont offered to organize anticipated elections in Catalonia against cancellation of the article 155 and the liberation of the two jailed association leaders. The central government refused.
Puigdemont decided to let the Catalan Parliament chose, they are now debating. Independentists in the Parliament are split between those who want to declare independence right now, and those who are ready to give up for this time.

What ended up happening?
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« Reply #152 on: October 26, 2017, 08:35:34 PM »

Today Puigdemont offered to organize anticipated elections in Catalonia against cancellation of the article 155 and the liberation of the two jailed association leaders. The central government refused.
Puigdemont decided to let the Catalan Parliament chose, they are now debating. Independentists in the Parliament are split between those who want to declare independence right now, and those who are ready to give up for this time.

What ended up happening?
Nothing yet, but the fact that he didn't call a snap election today means that independence is a bit more likely.
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« Reply #153 on: October 26, 2017, 09:40:26 PM »

Today Puigdemont offered to organize anticipated elections in Catalonia against cancellation of the article 155 and the liberation of the two jailed association leaders. The central government refused.
Puigdemont decided to let the Catalan Parliament chose, they are now debating. Independentists in the Parliament are split between those who want to declare independence right now, and those who are ready to give up for this time.

What ended up happening?
Nothing yet, but the fact that he didn't call a snap election today means that independence is a bit more likely.

These next few days will be interesting to say the least.
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« Reply #154 on: October 27, 2017, 01:39:22 AM »

Today Puigdemont offered to organize anticipated elections in Catalonia against cancellation of the article 155 and the liberation of the two jailed association leaders. The central government refused.
Puigdemont decided to let the Catalan Parliament chose, they are now debating. Independentists in the Parliament are split between those who want to declare independence right now, and those who are ready to give up for this time.

What ended up happening?
Nothing yet, they will meet again today. Today could be the big day, but it's not a done deal. While independentists are a majority in the Parliament, the more moderate elements consider that unilateral independence will get all of them arrested and achieve nothing.
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« Reply #155 on: October 27, 2017, 08:19:29 AM »

Secret vote taking place now. On the resolution there is no word of "independence", but it approves the process of the creation of a Catalan Republic. Opposition left the room and will not vote.
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« Reply #156 on: October 27, 2017, 08:50:03 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

Independence declared by the Parliament. Case of who blinks first now?
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« Reply #157 on: October 27, 2017, 09:11:41 AM »


Can someone explain to this noob how likely it is that the Catalans pull this off?
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« Reply #158 on: October 27, 2017, 09:17:04 AM »

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« Reply #159 on: October 27, 2017, 09:22:57 AM »

I honestly feel quite angry on behalf of Catalans for the cowardice of their politicians in bowing down to a loudmouthed minority. They're going to destroy their economy for literally no reason at all.
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« Reply #160 on: October 27, 2017, 09:57:34 AM »


Can someone explain to this noob how likely it is that the Catalans pull this off?

Can someone explain which point I said the Catalans were going to pull this off?
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« Reply #161 on: October 27, 2017, 10:22:33 AM »

US is backing Spain https://twitter.com/ABC/status/923926988372537345

Finish MP supporting a motion to recognize independent Catalonia https://twitter.com/KarnaMikko/status/923904022171578368
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« Reply #162 on: October 27, 2017, 12:00:21 PM »

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« Reply #163 on: October 27, 2017, 12:03:50 PM »

Tonight it's party night in the city center for the independentists. Flags, songs, beer and selfies. They should enjoy it, tomorrow may be hangover time.
No one knows what will happen tomorrow. Is the governement going to send the police and arrest all independence leaders?
Sunday there will be a big demonstration of the unionists. For the first time I am afraid it could be tense and potentially violent, will be more careful.
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« Reply #164 on: October 27, 2017, 01:19:40 PM »


His views shouldn't be mistaken for those of the government, though. As always in EU politics, the Finnish government will follow Germany's lead.
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« Reply #165 on: October 27, 2017, 01:22:50 PM »

António Costa, Portugal's PM: "I'm in solidarity with the defense of the constitutional principle of the unity of Spain".
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« Reply #166 on: October 27, 2017, 01:33:02 PM »

Congress should enact the Catalonian Relations Act that commits us to sell weapons to the Catalonians so they can provide for their defense.
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« Reply #167 on: October 27, 2017, 01:35:14 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2017, 01:37:23 PM by Homage to Catalonia »

The Spanish government has just announced it will sack and remove the Catalan government ...
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« Reply #168 on: October 27, 2017, 03:10:23 PM »


So does that mean he supports Portugal being reintegrated into the Spanish realm, or did the legitimacy of seeking independence on the Iberian peninsula end in 1668?

(Not that I think Catalonia should be trying to gain independence this way, but a Portuguese politician has no business condemning the attempt given Portuguese history.)
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« Reply #169 on: October 27, 2017, 04:33:34 PM »

Both Rajoy and Puigdemont went full retard on this one. Never go full retard.
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« Reply #170 on: October 27, 2017, 05:16:24 PM »


Can someone explain to this noob how likely it is that the Catalans pull this off?

Can someone explain which point I said the Catalans were going to pull this off?

You misunderstand me. I am the noob... I have no idea what's going on in Catalonia. Someone please explain?
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« Reply #171 on: October 27, 2017, 06:40:17 PM »

Congress should enact the Catalonian Relations Act that commits us to sell weapons to the Catalonians so they can provide for their defense.
how to destroy NATO 101
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« Reply #172 on: October 27, 2017, 08:04:59 PM »


The US is wrong on this one.
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« Reply #173 on: October 28, 2017, 04:38:33 AM »

Congress should enact the Catalonian Relations Act that commits us to sell weapons to the Catalonians so they can provide for their defense.

Catalans.

What a great idea. Trump's Administration support would surely help the Catalan cause. And there's no way it could destroy NATO and the EU. What could possibly go wrong?
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« Reply #174 on: October 28, 2017, 11:39:28 AM »

Looks like not even Andorra is recognizing Catalonia: https://twitter.com/GovernAndorra/status/923977972155109376
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