Republicans in Congress Plan to Split "Nutty" 9th Circuit
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« on: February 09, 2017, 11:43:53 AM »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/09/bill-to-split-nutty-9th-circuit-gains-momentum.html

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I think the Republicans have a solid point here I just wish their blatant intentions were less political. The circuit map was drawn in 1891 when the western United States was sparsely populated and breaking up circuits to account for population growth is not unprecedented. Timing is a little suspicious wouldn't you say?
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2017, 11:48:00 AM »

Maybe they want to get it done before the Left Coast secedes?
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2017, 11:52:35 AM »

There is an argument is reducing its size, but not for being "too liberal." Something tells me if every circuit in this country was 80% conservative Republican-appointed judges, they wouldn't be complaining about them being "too conservative."

What would happen if they did do this? Would some of the 9th circuit's judges go to the new 12th, or would the 12th be a blank slate that they fill entirely with conservative judges?

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2017, 11:58:25 AM »

The proper way to split it would be North/South and not East/West.

North

Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, and Washington

South

Arizona, California, Hawaii, and Nevada
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2017, 12:10:48 PM »
« Edited: February 09, 2017, 12:12:56 PM by Adam T »

The proper way to split it would be North/South and not East/West.

North

Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, and Washington

South

Arizona, California, Hawaii, and Nevada

Their already is a proposed country: Cascadia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(independence_movement)

The minimum version includes British Columbia, Washington and Oregon, but those who expand it slightly, generally don't add in territory from the east first (Alberta or Idaho) but generally go south first with Northern California.

Alaska and Yukon are sometimes also included, but they aren't germane to this discussion.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2017, 12:23:09 PM »

Good. Should have happened decades ago. Big, unwieldy, slow circuit most of the time.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2017, 02:24:19 PM »

Their intentions are terrible, but Gass' North-South split makes sense.
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2017, 06:04:40 PM »

Good
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2017, 06:25:19 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2017, 07:36:25 PM »

I believe this court is so fringe that it has the most overturned cases by the Supreme Court out of all the Circuit Courts.
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2017, 09:54:53 PM »

We'd already discussed this, but not in a thread of its own:


Breaking up the 9th is long overdue, and in many respects was more needed than the split of the 5th circuit in 1981 that created the 11th.  (Fun fact, Gerald Bard Tjoflat, was originally appointed to the 5th before the split and is the only remaining active judge in the 11th who was originally appointed to the 5th.)  That said, the proposed split in Flake's bill is stupidly partisan.  If the 9th is split, then the new 12th circuit should consist of Alaska, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and Montana.  However such a split wouldn't put a circuit court in Phoenix, which Flake's split probably would.
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