GOP congressman: Republican Party has become too extreme, incapable of governing

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The guy who mentioned climate change should have a chat with snowguy.

Snowguy is incredibly smart, and he could probably out-debate me, but he is an outlier. The vast majority of published studies and experts in the field accept that the earth is indeed warming and that it is primarily driven by humans.

Only a hardcore denier would reject the Richard Muller study.

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Remember when the Koch Brothers and bunch of other climate skeptics funded the only credible source of denial (Richard Mueller) who then proceeded to confirm the worst fears of climatologists with the caveat that his findings predicted worse results than their climate models? The consensus is unanimous: anthropogenic global warming is real and is already creating severe problems. On top of the huge droughts that have been afflicting us over the past few years, southern Russia has consistently had precipitation problems and India is facing problems with their monsoon (as predicted).

You can try to wiggle your way out of this issue all you want because the results seem far-fetched and damaging to your ideology but the verdict is in: global warming isn't going away. If we put this issue off for another decade, the damage will be done and the positive feedback loop will run away from us. Minute amounts of methane trapped in the permafrost of the arctic circle are already beginning to be released, over ten years ahead of schedule.

Torie is ignoring the models and the findings:

Pretty much. Only someone purposefully naive wouldn't believe in climate change after Muller's study.

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While there are always stragglers, climate change denial has evolved and I think will soon move to a new level. First they denied it was happening, then they agreed it was happening but said humans didn't cause it. The next step is to accept that humans are causing it but say it will cost too much to do anything about it and trying to change things will just destroy the world economy so just accept it and move on.

True, the arguments against doing something about climate change are kind of inconsistent.

1. What climate change?
2. OK, there's climate change, but it's natural causes
3. OK, humans caused climate change but it's too expensive to do anything about.

For some reason, the people in these categories don't argue with each other, but only with people who say that we should do something about climate change.

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Hanna is definitely no Jacob Javitts, but I could see him getting primaried because he didn't drink enough kool-aide.