Democratic Grand Finale Tuesday results thread (1st polls close @8pm ET)

[Boston Bread]

Tammy Duckworth has just unveiled this site: https://trumporkirk.com

Scored 75%. Only strategy was to give Trump the ones with a 3rd grade language level and Kirk the ones about serving.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Ok... not saying that Sanders will win Cali, but honestly there is a major over reaction to early VbM results  that were always expected to overwhelmingly favor Hillary.

For example early votes show Hillary winning Marin 63-36 and Sonoma 55-44 and SF 37-62, not even to speak elsewhere in the state.

These numbers are definitely impressive with early "vote-banking" and it looks like there is a decent chance that Hillary will win the state, but I ask those of you that are not residents of West Coast and heavily VbM states to automatically assume that the initial results that we are seeing is anywhere close to the final results.

I think you're right to a point - but I think you're over-thinking that Sanders can even get close at this stage.

[Crumpets]

So, is this going to be the first ever blonde vs blonde presidential election?

[ElectionsGuy]

Is California just going to be stuck until tomorrow or later?

[Gass3268]

So, is this going to be the first ever blonde vs blonde presidential election?

[cinyc]

Also, Sanders has taken a strong lead in Oglala Lakota County, SD

Only 2/9 precincts are reporting there.  Clinton won the sparsely populated Cuny Table precinct, which I think is near Badlands National Park.  Sanders cleaned up in the more-populated Oglala.  Who wins the Pine Ridge precincts will likely dictate who wins the county.  I'm pretty sure it will be Sanders because he made a campaign stop in the county.

[Xing]

So, is this going to be the first ever blonde vs blonde presidential election?

(Blonde vs. bald)

[Oak Hills]

Tammy Duckworth has just unveiled this site: https://trumporkirk.com

I got 81%!

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

This was my prediction after New Hampshire:

Needless to say, I'm amazed Sanders got as far as he did.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

WTF. Why are there always so many errors and changes on these election nights? The vote transferring and reporting process really needs to be cleaned up in some places.

It's mostly just NM that is constantly editing stuff that they reported earlier. That's why the network call took so long, Santa Fe's vote total was jumping around and they had to verify that it wasn't going to suddenly give Sanders a win.

[Xing]

MT is looking a bit better for Sanders. Looks like Clinton's final loss in the '08 primary will be her final loss this year as well.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

California still counting. Clinton up 62.2-36.7 with 14% in. Sanders ahead 48.7-46.6 in Montana with 35% in.

[RI]

WTF. Why are there always so many errors and changes on these election nights? The vote transferring and reporting process really needs to be cleaned up in some places.

It's mostly just NM that is constantly editing stuff that they reported earlier. That's why the network call took so long, Santa Fe's vote total was jumping around and they had to verify that it wasn't going to suddenly give Sanders a win.

Well, NM isn't actually editing anything, the media just seems to have a hard time differentiating between "precincts partially reported" and "precincts completely reported" which some western states use.

[VPH]

Why is South Dakota so split geographically?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Why is South Dakota so split geographically?

Farm land vs. Ranch land.

[Wisconsin+17]

Wonder when we'll see the CA call here.

[Seriously?]

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Santa Fe is out - that will shift back to Clinton.

Unless you've drilled down to the precincts out, Santa Fe County is basically 50/50 (tilt Clinton). ABQ is also out, and is 50/50 as well (tilt Sanders).

NM should pretty much hold as is.

[Wisconsin+17]

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I don't see it shifting into the Sanders column at this point. Lead is too great.

[VPH]

3 tied counties in MT!

[RI]

Bernie should win Montana. The post-absentee votes are more strongly in his favor than the early vote. Flathead flipped to him, Lewis and Clark will probably flip, and Yellowstone will likely narrow quite a bit.

[Seriously?]

Wonder when we'll see the CA call here.

No exit poll, they'll need more election day raw vote total is my guess. Clinton should obviously hold on.

CA can be frustrating with how slowly with the pace of how slowly the vote totals pour in.

[NOVA Green]

Ok... not saying that Sanders will win Cali, but honestly there is a major over reaction to early VbM results  that were always expected to overwhelmingly favor Hillary.

For example early votes show Hillary winning Marin 63-36 and Sonoma 55-44 and SF 37-62, not even to speak elsewhere in the state.

These numbers are definitely impressive with early "vote-banking" and it looks like there is a decent chance that Hillary will win the state, but I ask those of you that are not residents of West Coast and heavily VbM states to automatically assume that the initial results that we are seeing is anywhere close to the final results.

I think you're right to a point - but I think you're over-thinking that Sanders can even get close at this stage.

Well, you are quite possibly correct considering the Early Vote (EV) lead in the Bay Area and obviously 65-35 early leads in Santa Clara and Contra Costa, not even to speak of SF and Marin county don't appear that margins can be overcome.

In SoCal we really have very little idea of numbers in LA County, as well as OC and SD county and the early vote in the Inland Empire is heavily dominated by older, wealthier voter.

Like I said earlier on another thread, Bernie needs to win the Bay Area by larger margins than Clinton in '08, basically tie in Sacramento, do very well in rural and small town NorCal, and basically eke out a small margin in SD/OC, while keeping Clinton margins down in LA County and the Inland Empire in order to win narrowly.

Even with the early votes numbers, not seeing this being a very easy scenario....

[Wisconsin+17]

Bernie's down by 13 with 14 in. I have him at 43.8 percent capped. This is over.

[IceSpear]

CA has been stuck at 33% reporting for a while now. Is this really all we're getting tonight? That's annoying.

[Holmes]

Why is South Dakota so split geographically?

The east vs. west divide sure is something.