2009 Atlasian Economic Relief and Recovery Bill (Law'd)

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It would also, long-run, greatly expand the government's expenses to run these things.

Long-run, government would make money from those utilities. We must see that as a new revenue source for Atlasia. Joint ventures often cause money loss for the government. We must choose the better way to use the taxpayer's money.

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Nay

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Aye, ftr

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Aye

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Section 3: Aid to the Atlasian Auto Industry ($45+ billion)

   a. The federal government will purchase majority shareholder status in the Big 3 auto companies: General Motors, Ford and Chrysler
   b. An Automobile Industry Reform Board (AIRB) will be selected, tasked with the running of the Big 3
   c. The AIRB will be tasked with refocusing and streamlining production, with a focus on the development and production of fuel efficient and hybrid cars
   d. The Big 3 will also be paid to produce buses and trains, to expand the Atlasian public transportation system
   e. The AIRB will be required to make reports to the Senate every six months
   f. A flexible goal of returning to the Big 3 to private ownership within five years will be set

What clause in the Constitution gives the Senate the power to do this?

What clause in the Constitution denies the Senate the Power to do this?

[MaxQue]

Perhaps if we get to a point where all Atlasian automakers are likely to be liquated....but to be perfectly honest, I don't think it should be our responsibility to make sure every one survives, that's not how the market is supposed to work. I'm not convinced that it would even be a terrible thing for total supply on the American auto market to go down a bit....

I think that is an appropriate attitude. Car sales reflect consumer choice and attitude to the market more than any other 'one purchase' indicator. I see no reason to support struggling makers who are struggling due to their own complacency. I would be more willing to bail out the company investing in cleaner energy use and dual energy use in cars than those who stubbornly stick to oil and churn out unsustainable 'mini tanks' as family cars.

I support helping Atlasian automakers because many workers would lose their jobs if the automaker collaspes. Not because I think than those businesses should survive.

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Aye

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Aye

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Aye

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Aye

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Clause 1a has a real problem. Medicaid is abolished by the healthcare bill.

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Clause 1a has a real problem. Medicaid is abolished by the healthcare bill.

True, although it only phases it out slowly, while this is a short-term solution. But it is a good cocnern, so how about this amendment, offered as friendly:

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Accepted, though I doubt it will be a major problem either way, as the health care bill transfers everything from those programs to the new program.

You forgot that friendly amendment, MasterJedi.

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Aye

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Bloody hell that was quick! I was only on for a few minutes last night and I come back and find it all signed sealed and delivered Can I even do a FTR vote?

Yes