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A18
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« on: May 22, 2005, 03:15:33 PM »

Republicans. The filibuster was never used to block judicial nominees that would otherwise be confirmed before. The Democrats are completely out of power, so now they want to stack the courts with Kennedy/Stevens-types so they can legislate from the bench.

Just beat back the obstructionists and be done with it.
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A18
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2005, 04:01:12 PM »

Obviously any "judicial review" (i.e. made up crap) concerning the ruling should be laughed at and ignored.
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A18
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2005, 04:11:36 PM »

The filibuster has been weakened countless times. This is just another example, and since the filibuster has never even been used like this before, it's piss poor argument to talk about tradition.
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A18
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2005, 04:14:02 PM »

One is way too much. You're the minority party.
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A18
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2005, 04:23:04 PM »

This is all about the U.S. Supreme Court.

The judiciary has no authority to review Senate business, which is specifically made an autonomous unit in the Constitution. The Senate is its own supreme court.
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A18
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2005, 05:33:54 PM »

Well, the Senate could also just interpret the filibuster rule as not applying to presidential appointments.
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A18
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2005, 06:48:28 PM »

I am quite sure they don't have to, and will not, specify the reason, anyway. Basically, they're just ruling the Democrats out of order for filibustering a presidential appointment.
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A18
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2005, 10:45:07 AM »

If they're so out of the mainstream, they won't get 50 votes. If they can get 50 votes, they aren't out of the mainstream in the Senate, which is all that matters, as it's the body that confirms judges.
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A18
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2005, 10:54:40 AM »

Um, nomo, can you follow a point?
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A18
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2005, 10:58:59 AM »

How dumb. You can't cite political pressures as a reason to allow obstructionism. If senators are influenced by their constituents, I guess the system is working.
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A18
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2005, 07:16:32 PM »

There will be no filibustering for the SCOTUS, execpt in "extreme cases."

If that's Robert Bork, okay. If it's Scalia, no real deal has been reached, as the Democrats are just lying.
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A18
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2005, 08:19:17 PM »
« Edited: May 23, 2005, 08:21:18 PM by A18 »

There will be no filibustering for the SCOTUS, execpt in "extreme cases."

If that's Robert Bork, okay. If it's Scalia, no real deal has been reached, as the Democrats are just lying.

What in the heck is wrong with Bork? He was a well qualified guy who would have made decisions (for the most part) based on the Constitution. Instead we get stuck with that weasel Kennedy who makes decisions based on international law

Bork was an excellent appointment. By far the most qualified appointment to the SCOTUS in a generation.

That wasn't my point. My point was that they confirmed Scalia, and rejected Bork. Scalia is fine, so if they'll allow a vote on judges like Scalia, that's okay.
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