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« Reply #250 on: September 01, 2019, 12:23:47 PM »

It is traditionally the subject of much mockery, yes.
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« Reply #251 on: September 01, 2019, 12:28:02 PM »

Aw, Listening to Petra Köpping, Saxon Integration Minister and contender for the SPD chair, I just have to notice: I HATE the Saxon accent. It must sound to German ears like a Deep Southern white accent does to American ears. 😖

I absolutely love the Saxon dialect.




It definitely depends on the person who speak it. I know many martial arts fighters from Saxony, and with their accent they deem menacing, while I can certain people with that accent not take serious.
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« Reply #252 on: September 01, 2019, 12:30:21 PM »

It's good to see the combined left wing vote collapsing in both Brandenburg and Saxony.
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« Reply #253 on: September 01, 2019, 12:34:55 PM »

Wait ... what ?

There’s a Chaled-Uwe Said running in the constituency of Potsdam II ... for the AfD.

And he received more than 20% ... in the biggest city of the State.

LOL.

Chaled-Uwe might be the funniest Arab-German name I’ve ever seen.
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« Reply #254 on: September 01, 2019, 12:37:00 PM »

It's probably better to think of eastern Linke as Ostalgic rather than left, and the Ostalgic Bloc hasn't really lost votes thanks to the AfD.
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« Reply #255 on: September 01, 2019, 12:55:26 PM »
« Edited: September 01, 2019, 01:00:56 PM by Ξ »

With 30 % of votes counted in Barnim II, Peter Vida (BVB/FW) is currently at 24.3 %, ahead of Britta Stark (21.3 %). Looks like BVB/FW is going to reenter Parliament even if they fail to get 5 %.

Vida and Stark seem to fight a tough battle; their % difference has shrunk to only 0.6% after 53/70 precincts counted.

Update: After 56/70 precincts counted in Barmin II, it's 1% difference for Vida again. And he needs that direct seat as his FW are only at 4.983% statewide after 89.3% of the precincts counted.
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« Reply #256 on: September 01, 2019, 01:03:21 PM »

It's probably better to think of eastern Linke as Ostalgic rather than left, and the Ostalgic Bloc hasn't really lost votes thanks to the AfD.

I like that pun. Where did you pick it up?
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« Reply #257 on: September 01, 2019, 01:11:33 PM »

With 94% counted in Brandenburg, the FW are 11 votes above the 5% threshold ... Tongue

57.154 votes are needed, they have 57.165 votes ...
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« Reply #258 on: September 01, 2019, 01:12:06 PM »

The AfD currently has nine vacant seats that she has to fill up with nine direct mandates.
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« Reply #259 on: September 01, 2019, 01:15:50 PM »

16% counted in Saxony:

36% CDU
33% AfD
  8% Left
  6% SPD
  4% Greens
  4% FDP
  4% FW
  1% TSP
  1% NPD
  3% Others
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« Reply #260 on: September 01, 2019, 01:18:25 PM »

With 94% counted in Brandenburg, the FW are 11 votes above the 5% threshold ... Tongue

But Péter Vida is leading by 1.3% points in his constituency after 61/70 precincts counted, so they don't have to worry.
Thus, the FW are very likely to re-enter the Brandenburg Landtag, which would be very astonishing: twice entering a parliament thanks to the Grundmandatsklausel, with two different candidates in two different non-adjacent constituencies.
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« Reply #261 on: September 01, 2019, 01:21:30 PM »

The AfD currently has nine vacant seats that she has to fill up with nine direct mandates.

From what I can see the AfD is currently ahead in at least 10 direct seats and in some by a comfortable margin with over 40% of the vote.

In most districts in rural Saxony, it's someting like 40% for the AfD candidate and 35% for the CDU candidate ...
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« Reply #262 on: September 01, 2019, 01:26:18 PM »

16% counted in Saxony:

36% CDU
33% AfD
  8% Left
  6% SPD
  4% Greens
  4% FDP
  4% FW
  1% TSP
  1% NPD
  3% Others

Do you have the link to the Saxony election site, I've got the Brandenburg one where counting has basically finished.
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« Reply #263 on: September 01, 2019, 01:29:27 PM »

16% counted in Saxony:

36% CDU
33% AfD
  8% Left
  6% SPD
  4% Greens
  4% FDP
  4% FW
  1% TSP
  1% NPD
  3% Others

Do you have the link to the Saxony election site, I've got the Brandenburg one where counting has basically finished.

https://www.wahlen.sachsen.de/LW_19.php

You need to click on "Stimmenverteilung" below the map for the state results.

Direktstimmen are the constituency results.
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« Reply #264 on: September 01, 2019, 01:30:05 PM »

The AfD currently has nine vacant seats that she has to fill up with nine direct mandates.

From what I can see the AfD is currently ahead in at least 10 direct seats and in some by a comfortable margin with over 40% of the vote.

In most districts in rural Saxony, it's someting like 40% for the AfD candidate and 35% for the CDU candidate ...

However, it's not enough for the AfD to win enough direct seats; the direct mandates have to be allocated to those candidates who have not already gained a list mandate. Thus, it has become a game of chance for the AfD to occupy all seats that are due to them.
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« Reply #265 on: September 01, 2019, 01:32:30 PM »

The AfD currently has nine vacant seats that she has to fill up with nine direct mandates.

From what I can see the AfD is currently ahead in at least 10 direct seats and in some by a comfortable margin with over 40% of the vote.

In most districts in rural Saxony, it's someting like 40% for the AfD candidate and 35% for the CDU candidate ...

However, it's not enough for the AfD to win enough direct seats; the direct mandates have to be allocated to those candidates who have not already gained a list mandate. Thus, it has become a game of chance for the AfD to occupy all seats that are due to them.

Interesting, but correct of course.

A candidate who already won a list seat cannot win a district seat as well.
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« Reply #266 on: September 01, 2019, 01:37:42 PM »

34% counted in Saxony:

35.4% CDU
32.0% AfD
  8.6% Left
  6.7% SPD
  4.1% Greens
  4.1% FDP
  3.8% FW
  1.5% TSP
  1.0% PARTY
  0.8% NPD
  0.6% HR
  0.4% Blues
  1.0% Others

Turnout: 66.0%
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« Reply #267 on: September 01, 2019, 01:40:09 PM »

I've got the Brandenburg one where counting has basically finished.

That's technically correct.
Now that Péter Vida from the Free Voters has won his constituency Barnim II, his party doesn't need to surpass the statewide 5% threshold anymore in order to re-enter the Brandenburg Landtag. Hence, the vote-tallying is basically over in Brandenburg.
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« Reply #268 on: September 01, 2019, 01:42:10 PM »

Görlitz III is the 1st district fully counted in Saxony.

AfD candidate beats CDU candidate by 38-34 and AfD beats CDU 37-36 in the list vote.
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« Reply #269 on: September 01, 2019, 01:46:23 PM »

Görlitz III is the 1st district fully counted in Saxony.

AfD candidate beats CDU candidate by 38-34 and AfD beats CDU 37-36 in the list vote.

I would not have expected this. The complete opposite from 2017. Now AFD Candidates are running ahead of their Party.
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« Reply #270 on: September 01, 2019, 01:46:36 PM »

I've got the Brandenburg one where counting has basically finished.

That's technically correct.
Now that Péter Vida from the Free Voters has won his constituency Barnim II, his party doesn't need to surpass the statewide 5% threshold anymore in order to re-enter the Brandenburg Landtag. Hence, the vote-tallying is basically over in Brandenburg.

The Free Voters are now above 5% as well.

In fact they are 300 votes above the threshold, with 99% counted.
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« Reply #271 on: September 01, 2019, 01:48:57 PM »

Bautzen V has been declared:

CDU candidate beats AfD candidate 38-36.

AfD beats the CDU 36-33 (list).
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« Reply #272 on: September 01, 2019, 01:49:47 PM »

Vogtland II:

CDU/CDU
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« Reply #273 on: September 01, 2019, 01:52:42 PM »

Vogtland 3 and Erzgebirge 2 both go to the CDU (direct seat + list vote)
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« Reply #274 on: September 01, 2019, 01:53:18 PM »

I noticed something quite interesting:

Now for the time in history there are two Western states in which the Left is stronger than in another Eastern state. The strongest Western states for the Left are (my home state of) Saarland with 12.8 % in the 2017 elections and Bremen with 11.3 % in the 2019 elections, both state parties are now stronger than those in Saxony and Brandenburg. While Saarland is quite unique because of Oskar Lafontaine (who helped the Left gain 21 % in 2009), now the times for the Left as major Eastern party seem to be officially over.
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