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Question: Do you support this amendment?
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John Dibble
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« on: December 05, 2004, 03:25:24 PM »

I say yes to it provided we make legal immigration easier.
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John Dibble
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2004, 05:48:19 PM »

Phillip probably doesn't have a problem with legal Mexican immigrants - it's the ones who do not respect the laws of our lands and come here without our permission that he has a problem with, and that applies to any race I would imagine. I have the same problem - if you aren't fleeing a dictator like Castro, in which case you are more of a refugee than an immigrant, you are practically an invader, someone who has no respect for the sovereign borders of our nation.

I do believe immigration should be made easier, but if you want to live here you have to prove you have respect for the law.
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John Dibble
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2004, 07:18:07 PM »

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I think it's wrong to equate an illegal immigrant as an "invade."  There is a difference between someone who wants to pillage and rape your villages and someone who wants to do crappy jobs that no one else wants to do in order to fulfill their own "American dreams" of a better life.  It's not at the expense of everyone else.  Sure, they "take our jobs," by perhaps working at Walmart, but they also create them since they buy TVs and clothes just like everyone else.

I think skilled immigration should be unlimited and advocate greatly increasing unskilled as well.  It has to be somewhat gradual, otherwise it'll put strains on governmental services and the economy.

As I said, immigration should be easier. I also don't think they 'take our jobs', they instead probably generate jobs, and they take the ones people born here don't want. I think having people come here is good overall, as it provides cheap labor that helps reduce the trade deficit. I do think we shouldn't hand out lots of government benefits to them - they should live just like everyone else. If they want to work, let them in to work, but they better work, otherwise they shouldn't expect help.

However, as I said, I don't like it when people disregard our laws. Certainly, they are not the worst of invaders, but they are invaders - they enter our land without permission. If you wish to live somewhere, you should respect the laws that have been put forth.
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