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« on: January 29, 2008, 04:35:03 PM »

Polls close at 6? That seems awfully early.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 04:40:10 PM »

They close at 8, results probably start trickling in by 8:30

Makes much more sense. If this follows the usual pattern, we should know the Republican winner for near-certain by 9. Presumably, the Democratic contest will be obvious before then (if, by a fluke, it ends up close, the result will obviously be later).
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 07:20:12 PM »

Mostly Hillsborough and Lake Counties. Not sure who that's good news for.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 07:22:18 PM »

Mostly Hillsborough and Lake Counties. Not sure who that's good news for.
Aren't those areas considered Pro-Romney?

Well, Hillsborough's favoring McCain, so if it is that's terrible news for Romney.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 07:37:39 PM »

Apparently Bradford County likes its Southern folk, as Edwards has Clinton within 5% there.

I wouldn't be surprised if he wins a handful of the Dixiecrat-heavy counties in far north Florida (some of which have Democratic registrations at around 70% but voted 70% for Bush).
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2008, 07:44:21 PM »

Clinton is down to 52% from a high of 58% a while ago... if she gets below 50% by the time this is done, that's probably not a good thing.

For her you mean right?

No, Gabu has been assimilated Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2008, 07:50:22 PM »

Though it's too early to really tell anything for sure, I'd predict Clinton to be under 50%, especially if the Panhandle comes in strongly for Edwards.

I'm sure it will, and Obama is leading substantially in the majority black counties in the north.

Edwards won Baker County with 44% of the vote.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 07:57:39 PM »

Have a lot of black areas come in on the Democratic side?

There aren't that many that are distinct by county, just Jefferson, Gadsden and Leon. Obama's winning Leon by 21 points with 21% in, Gadsden by 18 points with <1% in, and Jefferson by 5 points with <1% in.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 07:59:49 PM »

I think Romney was hurt badly by Dixiecrats forgetting to switch party registration. There were more votes in Baker County, 77% for Bush, for the Democrats than for the Republicans. (Romney won on the Republican side, Edwards on the Democratic side.)
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 08:02:03 PM »

Alachua is a surprise. Anyone know why it would prefer Obama? Small black population, not a particularly liberal area from what I can tell (though it did vote for Kerry).

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 08:06:49 PM »

Also, interestingly enough, the only religious group Obama won was those who attend church "more than weekly", although that might basically translate to "black people".

That's what I figured. Among Democrats, blacks are easily the most religious group.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2008, 08:09:52 PM »

Also, interestingly enough, the only religious group Obama won was those who attend church "more than weekly", although that might basically translate to "black people".

That's what I figured. Among Democrats, blacks are easily the most religious group.

Interesting.

Not all that much, when you consider that, in the South where most of the black population is, they're influenced by the same strains of evangelical Christianity that southern whites are, just poorer and with tribal loyalty to Democrats instead of Republicans.

Obama also won the 18-24 and 30-39 age brackets (but not 25-29).
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2008, 08:12:18 PM »

I'm quite surprised by how well Edwards is doing in the Northern counties. I thought he'd poll 20-30%, but he's actually leading in at least five thus far...

Dixiecrats turned away from voting for Huckabee/Romney. See Baker County: 77% for Bush but more votes for the Democrats than the Republicans. And Edwards won by 14 points.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2008, 08:17:04 PM »

Orange County 19% for Gravel!


That must be a computer error. Has to be. No other explanation.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2008, 08:21:16 PM »

Obama is kicking ass in Tallahasse. Pretty odd, compared to Orlando.

Something is amiss in the Orange county numbers on the D side. There's a 30% showing for "other", and unusually low Obama numbers.

As I said above, they're recording a phenomenal Gravel performance there, more than triple Edwards's showing. There's no way that's the case.
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2008, 08:25:49 PM »

For the optimistic Obama (and Edwards) supporters, I hate to rain on the parade, but Broward and Miami-Dade are hardly in at all, and Palm Beach isn't in at all. By early numbers, Clinton will be destroying in Broward, and probably in Palm Beach, too. Obama's doing well in Miami-Dade, but Edwards's showing there so far is dismal, bad enough that it will boost Clinton.
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2008, 08:30:25 PM »

Gravel was endorsed by the Florida State Senate Democratic Leader because he would actually campaign in the state... the Orange County results could be a protest vote for him, but that'd be a pretty effing big protest vote.

I've got to drive down to Olympia, gone for a half hour or so.

Still, it doesn't make any sense for him to get 19% in Orange County while getting almost no votes anywhere else.
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2008, 08:34:23 PM »


Maybe Orange County spontaneously combusted or something.

MASSIVE EXPLOSION AT DISNEY WORLD! MILLIONS OF MINIATURE MICKEYS DESTROYED!

Maybe he was on the ballot as Mickey Gravel Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2008, 08:35:51 PM »

Romney is done. McCain wins Florida, possibly by a fairly substantial margin in the end. He's won the nomination.
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2008, 08:39:20 PM »


Not on CNN Huh

Though I expect it at some point.

Romney is done. McCain wins Florida, possibly by a fairly substantial margin in the end. He's won the nomination.

Congratulations John McCain, our 44th president.
Obama or Clinton will still win.

Clinton cannot beat McCain.
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2008, 08:43:06 PM »

All I want is a Huckabee surge. I'd love to see Rudy in forth place. Looks like Giuliani will edge him out though.

Especially since a lot of what's left is Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach, which will be relatively strong finishes for Giuliani.
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2008, 08:44:47 PM »

Especially since a lot of what's left is Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach, which will be relatively strong finishes for Giuliani.

You really still think so?

Certainly better than Huckabee, and Giuliani should come in second in Miami-Dade.
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2008, 08:48:13 PM »

CNN has withdrawn all of the Orange County Democratic results. Presumably something is happening there.
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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2008, 08:50:19 PM »

CNN has withdrawn all of the Orange County Democratic results. Presumably something is happening there.
Rigged Election!!!!

I bet Gravel will be down there protesting that the 19% of Orange County which voted for him had their votes taken away by Diebold, or something.
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2008, 09:04:21 PM »

Any news on the Orange County voting error or whatever?

It seems to have involved Biden and Gravel; Biden lost a ton of votes when Orange County was withdrawn, too. No other news to report.
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