The current mood really is reminiscent of the months after 9/11, when Reasonable Liberals in the opinion columns were advocating for invasion and occupation of everything from Casablanca to Lahore. Things will shift, eventually, but I'll be keeping receipts.
This is a great way to find out the moderate Dems here who are unable to process nuance, basically the inverse of what Russia Ukraine was with the progressive/socialist Dems.
I'm sorry: What is the "nuance" exactly of sending a terrorist group to massacre, rape, and take hostage upwards of thousands of civilians, Lurker? Remind me again? What part of this am I supposed to think is "nuanced" exactly?
Honestly the comparison to Russia/Ukraine is merely confirming that the usual suspects are as pro-aggression/terrorism/fascism/Russia/Iran/frankly, Axis of Evil, as ever. While the people who actually care about liberalism and democracy and human rights and Western values stand as resolute in defense of these things as ever.
Frankly, it's about as black and white as issues get nowadays. Not much "nuance" to speak of.
Literally the entire context prior to this.
You know what I’m talking about, the invasion of West Bank and the siege of Gaza creating the worlds largest humanitarian crisis for years with nobody doing anything. This didn’t come from nowhere. I condemn Hamas strongly, I refuse to pretend this was not an inevitable and logical outcome and yet y’all kept calling everyone who dared question the recent pro-settler, pro siege policies “anti semitic”, well guess what now y’all got the result you want I suppose. Have fun cheering on the destruction of Gaza and the likely forced relocation of millions of people, or more likely just ignoring it.
I say we support Israel anyways for geopolitical reasons and so we have a chance to possibly prevent the worst of what will come, but I’m not going to pretend this is some moral crusade because it’s not, it’s a nasty brutish war exacerbated by cynical politicians on both sides for personal gain at the expense of their own people.
Stop carrying water for this anti-liberal government in Jerusalem, this isn’t the Israel of even ten years ago and certainly not the one that existed pre-Bibi.
And no this is not like Ukraine, tell me where the f**k the Ukrainians were building illegal settlements in Russia and blocking at millions of Russians from basic human necessities?