Post-WW2, pre-Ukraine invasion: What genocides occurred? In which should the US have intervened?
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2023, 02:19:38 PM »

In addition to what's been mentioned, you also have the actions of ISIS towards Yazidis and other minorities.

There's a pretty reasonable argument that the massacres of Hutu refugees in the DRC during the Congo Wars constitute genocide, as well as Effacer le tableau.

Also the still-ongoing Ituri conflict. A central theme of the various conflicts mentioned in central Africa is that attempts at genocide aren't just confined to one party - when they've had the power to, people on all sides of the conflicts have engaged in widespread slaughter of civilians.

This is disturbingly common in a lot of these, not just Central Africa; it's the same kind of dynamic that explains the Soviets' actions against Germans after WW2, or the violence in the former Yugoslavia.
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« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2023, 12:58:05 AM »


Isolated war crimes do not equal genocide. At no point did the US set out to exterminate the Vietnamese people. We actually held some of the perpetrators of My Lai accountable even. More than you can say for Russia, where war crimes are all but encouraged and the extermination of an ethnic group/nationality is an explicit goal.

But by all means, keep trying to "both sides" and "whatabout" everything.

Keep trying to engage in genocide denial because it doesn't fit your world view.

Besides, makes a lot of sense you ignore the Indonesian genocide in your post.
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« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2023, 01:03:43 AM »

According to wiki we have:
1.Soviet deportation of Crimean Tatars in the late 40s
2.Soviet deportation of Chechens and Ingush in the late 40s
3.Guatemala genocide (govt killed 40% of the remaining Mayans) (60s-90s)
4.Bangladesh genocide 1971
5.Hutu genocide in Burundi in 1972
6.Acholi and Lango genocides by Idi Amin in the mid 70s
7.East Timor genocide (almost half of them were killed by Indonesia in 1999
8.Camboida in the late 70s
9.Gukurahundi in Zimbabwe in the mid 80s
10.Anfal (Kurds) genocide by Saddam in the late 80s
11.Isaaq genocide in Somalia, late 80s
12.Bosnia early 90s
13.Rwanada 1994
14.Massacre of the Hutus in Congo late 90s
15.Massacre of pygmies by Congo early aughts
16.Darfur, ongoing
17.Yazidis by ISIS late teens
18.Uyghur genocide, ongoing
19.Rohingya genocide in Myanmar ongoing

The UN, with the West's support, should have intervened in all of them.  Unfortunately, Soviet leadership sucked and the west's leadership didn't have any balls (and was occasionally on the wrong side of these) so the UN is a worthless organization whose only purpose is to allow garbage countries to express their antisemitism together.

Again, a lot of genocides simply aren't named here.

I've said it before...

some genocides matter...

some don't...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366

No genocide according to your source because it was a pro-western one.
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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2023, 04:11:47 AM »

Again, a lot of genocides simply aren't named here.

I've said it before...

some genocides matter...

some don't...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366

No genocide according to your source because it was a pro-western one.
1.that's far more of a genocide than My Lai (which in no way was a genocide), but it was far more of political based killings instead of genetic based one, which is what a genocide is
2.my source is the same as yours
3.your anti-west, hate boner is showing
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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2023, 09:26:25 PM »

We shouldn’t have intervened in Rwanda.
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« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2023, 05:34:34 AM »

We shouldn’t have intervened in Rwanda.

Who is "we" in this context - the US, or the "outside world" more generally?
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