Is condescending conservative anti-city rhetoric a bug or a feature?
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Question: Do many conservatives even realize how condescending they sound toward urban voters?
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2017, 02:54:15 PM »
« edited: March 01, 2017, 03:04:35 PM by modern maverick »

Apparently there are a number of secular sociological arguments in favor of people getting married on the young side (~23-25ish), but I'm not really well-versed enough in sociology of the family to have too firm an opinion (I suspect there may be some correlation/causation holes in these arguments). I definitely think it's a problem that social cohesion and economic security for young adults have deteriorated to the point where many people don't have the option of marrying young even if they want to. I also think it's probably a good idea to have children, if not young, then younger than a lot of well-heeled coastal urbanites tend to, both for health reasons and because it's easier to keep up with children when you're still relatively youthful yourself and you stand a better chance of your kids being financially stable enough to help take care of you by the time you retire.
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2017, 04:47:09 PM »

It's more or less a loose term for "Black" because when people think of major city they equate it with blacks and other minorities. GA, IL, and NV all have hostile urban-rural divide and they also have high minority population in their urban centers. While states like UT, KS, OK and NE have similar situation with one/two large metros holding a majority of the state population but they lack a large minority population so their not as polarizing.   

This is true. Republicans talk about certain big cities because it immediately conjures up images of blacks rioting, gays walking around in assless chaps, and illegals raping in the minds of Conservative voters

When we talk about "Real America", it is not blacks that are excluded, but rather liberal whites from the city and inner suburbs who don't share real American values.

Boston, New York City, Chicago, San Francisco, and Los Angeles may be very artificial to you, but that is where a lot of foreign tourists go. They aren't coming to America to see apple orchards, cotton fields, or cattle field lots.
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2017, 11:33:19 PM »

In many ways, all politics throughout all history has just been about the mutual hatred between rural people and urban people, all ideology was just window dressing.

"The history of all hitherto existing society is but the history of urban vs. rural struggles."

- Willips Brighton, The Manifesto of the Postmodern Liberal Snob Party
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2017, 11:36:23 PM »

the effing places where your very nation was founded are ofc real america, maybe even the most real ones.
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2017, 11:43:28 PM »

Yes, it is very intentional and the people who do it are no worse than shitlib hipsters who bash small towns all the time.  Both these things unhealthy for democracy because both parties have willfully isolated themselves from the rest of the country, and reflects on a larger problem in society which is the bubble that people are living in.  Urban liberals have given up on even trying to appeal to so-called 'middle America' while conservatives use the "inner cities" as a racial scapegoat for all the country's problems.  It's a major reason why politics in this country is as polarized as it is now.  We aren't exposing ourselves to different ideas or perspectives, much less trying to reach out to new people and share our ideas and people have become less tolerant and more narrow-minded because of that.

I have no problem with the minorities in cities, just the liberal whites.  You know, the types that think people shouldn't get married until their 30s and should maybe have one kid when they are 40.

Yeah, those are HUGe problems
And a lot of conservative urbanites do exactly the same thing

Politics is downstream from culture, and if culture stops viewing one-night stands and hooking up as unthinkably terrible (as it already is starting to), then that flows to harming family values.  I may be angry that we now have abortion, gay marriage, and transgenderism, but these things existing are all symptoms of the sexual revolution (see also: no-fault divorce).

So you want a return to 50s family values yet you voted for a 3 time adulterer and sexual abuser who paid porn stars to have affairs while married to his current wife. Just lol


Correct, it's the type of "family values" guys like ExtremeRepublican support. It's all 50s Leave It To Beaver on the surface but then it also goes to wife beating, 16 and pregnant underneath.
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