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« Reply #100 on: September 13, 2020, 07:44:33 PM »

I used to think he was just a cranky boomer but some of the stuff he’s been posting in relation to BLM has seriously started to enter racist territory

Why should anyone not relentlessly oppose BLM and Antifa, organizations that are responsible for this massive amount of violence?

BLM and Antifa should be resisted by everyone with decency.  They promulgate violence, and their costs mount daily.  What they're doing is NOT peaceful protest.  You cannot sign off on BLM without signing off on violence at this point (and the same goes for Antifa).

The real question is this:  Why are you NOT opposing BLM at this point?
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« Reply #101 on: September 13, 2020, 07:55:04 PM »

Look man, you need to go outside or something. Spending this much time online is bad
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« Reply #102 on: September 13, 2020, 07:55:26 PM »

Why should anyone not relentlessly oppose BLMBoogaloo Boys and Antifaneo-Nazis, organizations that are responsible for this massive amount of violence?

BLMBoogaloo Boys and Antifaneo-Nazis should be resisted by everyone with decency.  They promulgate violence, and their costs mount daily.  What they're doing is NOT peaceful protest.  You cannot sign off on BLMBoogaloo Boys without signing off on violence at this point (and the same goes for Antifa).

The real question is this:  Why are you NOT opposing BLMBoogaloo Boys at this point?

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« Reply #103 on: September 13, 2020, 08:00:54 PM »

Why should anyone not relentlessly oppose BLMBoogaloo Boys and Antifaneo-Nazis, organizations that are responsible for this massive amount of violence?

BLMBoogaloo Boys and Antifaneo-Nazis should be resisted by everyone with decency.  They promulgate violence, and their costs mount daily.  What they're doing is NOT peaceful protest.  You cannot sign off on BLMBoogaloo Boys without signing off on violence at this point (and the same goes for Antifa).

The real question is this:  Why are you NOT opposing BLMBoogaloo Boys at this point?

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No man, those are actually violent organizations. The idea is we're going to scapegoat groups of people that aren't even a cohesive entity and are mostly just protesting for their lives, to own the libs.
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« Reply #104 on: September 13, 2020, 08:32:24 PM »

Why should anyone not relentlessly oppose BLMBoogaloo Boys and Antifaneo-Nazis, organizations that are responsible for this massive amount of violence?

BLMBoogaloo Boys and Antifaneo-Nazis should be resisted by everyone with decency.  They promulgate violence, and their costs mount daily.  What they're doing is NOT peaceful protest.  You cannot sign off on BLMBoogaloo Boys without signing off on violence at this point (and the same goes for Antifa).

The real question is this:  Why are you NOT opposing BLMBoogaloo Boys at this point?

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Of course I'm against the Boogaloo Boys.

I'm certain that the appropriate amount of government force would be used at the first act of violence by that group in a demonstration.  The police would not be required to stand down; they would be free to do what is necessary to ensure public safety.  Alleged wrongdoers would be arrested and prosecuted from the get-go, and would face trial if the evidence where there to support charges.

I'm fine with all of that.

That's what should have been happening to BLM and Antifa, but it hasn't.  Police have been told to stand down, and their violence has been denied, then excused, by the bulk of the American Left.  Those groups should be no more immune to the enforcement of our laws than the Boogaloo Boys.
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« Reply #105 on: September 13, 2020, 08:48:54 PM »

Why should anyone not relentlessly oppose BLMBoogaloo Boys and Antifaneo-Nazis, organizations that are responsible for this massive amount of violence?

BLMBoogaloo Boys and Antifaneo-Nazis should be resisted by everyone with decency.  They promulgate violence, and their costs mount daily.  What they're doing is NOT peaceful protest.  You cannot sign off on BLMBoogaloo Boys without signing off on violence at this point (and the same goes for Antifa).

The real question is this:  Why are you NOT opposing BLMBoogaloo Boys at this point?

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No man, those are actually violent organizations. The idea is we're going to scapegoat groups of people that aren't even a cohesive entity and are mostly just protesting for their lives, to own the libs.

The above is a lie.  Someone is responsible for the rioting, looting, and violence in our streets, and it is not Donald Trump, Republicans, Middle America, or ordinary Law-Abiding citizens. 

This is Gaslighting as its best. 

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« Reply #106 on: September 14, 2020, 12:29:05 AM »

Positives: He puts genuine effort into his posts.

Negatives: He's bigoted and mindlessly defends everything Trump does.
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« Reply #107 on: September 14, 2020, 08:27:00 AM »

Positives: He puts genuine effort into his posts.

Negatives: He's bigoted and mindlessly defends everything Trump does.

Is it "bigoted" to oppose BLM? 

Is calling out their violence "bigoted"?

Is it "bigoted" to cite crime statistics as they are?

Is it "bigoted to oppose amnesty for illegal aliens, given the effect that such an amnesty would have on the structurally unemployed and low-skilled workers that are American citizena?

Right now, BLM and Antifa are responsible for the overwhelming bulk of violence in our cities.  If it's bigoted to point that out and call that out, they tell me why that violence is justified?  When you do, think of all the doors your argument would open.

"ACAB".  "Pigs in a blanket; fry 'em like bacon!".  Are these your sentiments?

The standards of "bigotry" and "racism" should not be determined by the degree to which one supports political agendas where public opinion falls along racial/ethnic lines.  This is inevitable in a country with a diverse population.  I oppose the BLM/Antifa crowd because they are rioting criminals.  Whatever valid points they may have (and they have some), one forfeits their right to be included in a serious discussion when they engage in wanton violence, threats of violence, and advocacy of violence.
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« Reply #108 on: September 14, 2020, 08:35:12 AM »

Positives: He puts genuine effort into his posts.

Negatives: He's bigoted and mindlessly defends everything Trump does.

Is it "bigoted" to oppose BLM? 

Is calling out their violence "bigoted"?

Is it "bigoted" to cite crime statistics as they are?

Is it "bigoted to oppose amnesty for illegal aliens, given the effect that such an amnesty would have on the structurally unemployed and low-skilled workers that are American citizena?

Right now, BLM and Antifa are responsible for the overwhelming bulk of violence in our cities.  If it's bigoted to point that out and call that out, they tell me why that violence is justified?  When you do, think of all the doors your argument would open.

"ACAB".  "Pigs in a blanket; fry 'em like bacon!".  Are these your sentiments?

The standards of "bigotry" and "racism" should not be determined by the degree to which one supports political agendas where public opinion falls along racial/ethnic lines.  This is inevitable in a country with a diverse population.  I oppose the BLM/Antifa crowd because they are rioting criminals.  Whatever valid points they may have (and they have some), one forfeits their right to be included in a serious discussion when they engage in wanton violence, threats of violence, and advocacy of violence.
No you’re a bigot because you said that the people who stormed the Michigan state house with guns was more peaceful then NFL players who locked arms in a moment of silence. You’re a bigot because you recently had a signature that said people like you support Trump because before him the US government was being dominated by (((foreign interests))), you’re a bigot because time and time again you defended Reaganfan who is one of the biggest racists to of posted on this site, and you’re a bigot because you have a well documented history of harassing Muslim posters
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« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2020, 08:48:14 AM »

Positives: He puts genuine effort into his posts.

Negatives: He's bigoted and mindlessly defends everything Trump does.

Is it "bigoted" to oppose BLM? 

Is calling out their violence "bigoted"?

Is it "bigoted" to cite crime statistics as they are?

Is it "bigoted to oppose amnesty for illegal aliens, given the effect that such an amnesty would have on the structurally unemployed and low-skilled workers that are American citizena?

Right now, BLM and Antifa are responsible for the overwhelming bulk of violence in our cities.  If it's bigoted to point that out and call that out, they tell me why that violence is justified?  When you do, think of all the doors your argument would open.

"ACAB".  "Pigs in a blanket; fry 'em like bacon!".  Are these your sentiments?

The standards of "bigotry" and "racism" should not be determined by the degree to which one supports political agendas where public opinion falls along racial/ethnic lines.  This is inevitable in a country with a diverse population.  I oppose the BLM/Antifa crowd because they are rioting criminals.  Whatever valid points they may have (and they have some), one forfeits their right to be included in a serious discussion when they engage in wanton violence, threats of violence, and advocacy of violence.
No you’re a bigot because you said that the people who stormed the Michigan state house with guns was more peaceful then NFL players who locked arms in a moment of silence. You’re a bigot because you recently had a signature that said people like you support Trump because before him the US government was being dominated by (((foreign interests))), you’re a bigot because time and time again you defended Reaganfan who is one of the biggest racists to of posted on this site, and you’re a bigot because you have a well documented history of harassing Muslim posters

That's a lie.  I did not say that.

The protesters in Michigan were more law-abiding than BLM.  The protests in Michigan were short-lived, and those who threatened to get out of line were swiftly.  Law enforcement were allowed to enforce the law at their protests, and and there was no destruction of property.  BLM and Antifa can't say that.

My opinion on the NFL gestures is that it is lecturing the bulk of America on virtues their side doesn't show.  There is no mention of violence in the streets.  And while I would not have booed, I am sympathetic with those who did boo.  This was the fans' chance to publicly express THEIR disapproval with the violence in the streets, and with the implicit condoning of the violence in the streets.

The NFL and its players should have used their platform to call for all those violently protesting in the streets to stand down.  That would have been the RIGHT thing to do.  That would have been the minimally decent thing to do.  Virtue signaling to law-abiding citizens while refusing to call out rioters and looters when there is an opportunity to do so is squandering an opportunity for REAL unity and healing.  Of course, many folks don't want actual healing and unity; they want something else, and that something else is not good.
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« Reply #110 on: September 14, 2020, 09:04:01 AM »

Positives: He puts genuine effort into his posts.

Negatives: He's bigoted and mindlessly defends everything Trump does.

Is it "bigoted" to oppose BLM? 

Is calling out their violence "bigoted"?

Is it "bigoted" to cite crime statistics as they are?

Is it "bigoted to oppose amnesty for illegal aliens, given the effect that such an amnesty would have on the structurally unemployed and low-skilled workers that are American citizena?

Right now, BLM and Antifa are responsible for the overwhelming bulk of violence in our cities.  If it's bigoted to point that out and call that out, they tell me why that violence is justified?  When you do, think of all the doors your argument would open.

"ACAB".  "Pigs in a blanket; fry 'em like bacon!".  Are these your sentiments?

The standards of "bigotry" and "racism" should not be determined by the degree to which one supports political agendas where public opinion falls along racial/ethnic lines.  This is inevitable in a country with a diverse population.  I oppose the BLM/Antifa crowd because they are rioting criminals.  Whatever valid points they may have (and they have some), one forfeits their right to be included in a serious discussion when they engage in wanton violence, threats of violence, and advocacy of violence.
No you’re a bigot because you said that the people who stormed the Michigan state house with guns was more peaceful then NFL players who locked arms in a moment of silence. You’re a bigot because you recently had a signature that said people like you support Trump because before him the US government was being dominated by (((foreign interests))), you’re a bigot because time and time again you defended Reaganfan who is one of the biggest racists to of posted on this site, and you’re a bigot because you have a well documented history of harassing Muslim posters

lol,foreign interests doesn't just mean Israel and the Jews, Fuzzy is fine with the US relation with Israel, I assume he is more talking about trade and China.
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