I didn't say anything about the effect of these views on their legal bearing. The only thing I have been trying to say is that it is possible to not support same-sex marriage without being a bigot. Perhaps you equate opposition to same-sex marriage with bigotry; but you seemed to readily make all sorts of assumptions about my character earlier that were not true. Surely you can acknowledge there mere possibility that there are some people who do not support same-sex marriage without being homophobes, bigots, fundamentalists, and so forth?
Yes, they could be ignorant or stupid, however so often that's coterminous with fundamentalism or homophobia.
Honestly, I have never heard a single coherent argument that addresses the point I made earlier, why distinguish a man-woman relationship from a man-man woman-woman relationship? (except arguments that relied on fundamentalism or homophobia, which are coherent, but wrong-headed and horrible) I'm open to hearing a coherent argument that meets my criteria. But, I don't think it exists. This has been argued by people smarter than you and I in the Federal Courts. The anti-SSM marriage side has failed to find one rational basis reason for banning SSM. Maybe you can help them and think of one, but I seriously doubt it.
It might be considered that opposition to gay marriage comes out of a somewhat different intellectual tradition than which modern "rational basis" legal arguments rest upon, and that diverse intellectual traditions can hold coherence or at least not be "stupid."
Your criteria is seems to be that any concept of marriage related to gender qua gender is bigoted by definition, is that right?
I wouldn't say that everyone who opposes gay marriage is a bigot. Many people may be old and set in their ways, they may be working off of a bad set of information about the nature of sexual orientation, and they may have never met a gay person in their life. Their opinion may be reflexive and the result of lifelong conditioning.
I don't think you mean "never have met a gay person in your life". It's as if I told you that you had never met a woman in your life.
