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« Reply #100 on: March 19, 2012, 11:33:09 AM »

Eh, it's basically the same system as in Iowa, Minnesota, etc. just without a meaningless straw poll that is clearly not tracking with the actual delegate allocations.
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« Reply #101 on: March 19, 2012, 11:36:24 AM »

Eh, it's basically the same system as in Iowa, Minnesota, etc. just without a meaningless straw poll that is clearly not tracking with the actual delegate allocations.

And it is stretching out over weeks just to see who won the state. I understand the conventions matter in these caucus states but at least we know who won the damn caucuses in Iowa, Minnesota, etc.
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« Reply #102 on: March 19, 2012, 12:00:39 PM »

Here's my plan:
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« Reply #103 on: March 19, 2012, 12:37:43 PM »

This is officially the worst system of the season.

No, PA will be.  Sad
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« Reply #104 on: March 19, 2012, 12:43:45 PM »


Well, yeah, probably.
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« Reply #105 on: March 24, 2012, 01:02:19 PM »

According to Twitter reports Ron Paul won every delegate and alternate in the city of St Louis.

#mocaucus

That should mean he will eventually pick up the three national delegates from MO-01.
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« Reply #106 on: March 24, 2012, 01:31:12 PM »

According to Twitter reports Ron Paul won every delegate and alternate in the city of St Louis.

#mocaucus

That should mean he will eventually pick up the three national delegates from MO-01.

I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. He was pretty strong there in the primary too.

That would put my totals at:

Delegates (50/142):
414 Santorum (37.00%)
333 Paul (29.76%)
310 Romney (27.70%)
21 Uncommitted
9 Paul
(21 Unknown)
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« Reply #107 on: March 24, 2012, 01:56:35 PM »

Is the show me state going to show me the results?
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« Reply #108 on: March 24, 2012, 02:03:50 PM »

Jackson County with 179 delegates is voting now. If the Paul people can hijack the county, they can take the lead in my count. Doesn't mean they'd actually be ahead though.
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« Reply #109 on: March 24, 2012, 02:30:06 PM »

 How many delegates could Ron Paul get out of Missouri as things stand now?
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« Reply #110 on: March 24, 2012, 03:12:07 PM »

Sounds like the Romney and Paul camps are colluding again in Jackson County to deny Santorum delegates.
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« Reply #111 on: March 24, 2012, 03:38:53 PM »

Paul won vast majority of delegates in Jackson with Romney winning the remainder. None for Santorum. I don't have any hard numbers, but Paul should now be leading in my totals.
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« Reply #112 on: March 24, 2012, 03:40:10 PM »

Santorum's lack of organisation is KILLING him.
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« Reply #113 on: March 24, 2012, 03:49:29 PM »

Missouri is really turning out to be a disaster for Santorum. This a a state he should be cleaning up in but if the Paul and Romney camps keep working together he could wind up finishing 2nd or 3rd in terms of delegates.

BTW just from reading the twitter feeds I bet in 2016 the Missouri primary will be binding again. People hate this system.
 
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« Reply #114 on: March 24, 2012, 03:51:18 PM »

Seeing 80%/20% P/R being thrown around. If exact, that's 143 Paul and 36 Romney from Jackson. Going by those numbers, you'd get:

Delegates (51/142):
476 Paul
414 Santorum
346 Romney
32 Uncommitted
9 Gingrich
(21 Unknown)

Keep in mind the most of the other 91 counties/townships where I don't have info should be mostly Santorum areas. I still think Rick has more statewide, but we may never know.
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« Reply #115 on: March 24, 2012, 03:54:57 PM »

Go Paul!!! GO!
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« Reply #116 on: March 24, 2012, 04:01:58 PM »

Any news organisations counting the delegates from this contest?
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« Reply #117 on: March 24, 2012, 04:03:18 PM »

Any news organisations counting the delegates from this contest?

I doubt it.
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« Reply #118 on: March 24, 2012, 04:11:27 PM »

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« Reply #119 on: March 25, 2012, 12:15:08 AM »

OK, it's time to change their state motto to "Fail to show me"
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« Reply #120 on: March 25, 2012, 08:28:19 AM »

Santorum's lack of organisation is KILLING him.

This has been his problem throughout the primaries. He had virtually no ground organization during the critical period last summer. In many states he was left inheriting parts of organizations from candidates who dropped out, but that is not the same as building your own. Both Romney and Paul did have state organizations in place, not only last year, but at a low level back to their runs in 2008.
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« Reply #121 on: March 25, 2012, 02:13:54 PM »
« Edited: March 25, 2012, 02:19:10 PM by argentarius »

Got a map update? Any chance we could get these results posted on the main website?

Will they rehold the St. Charles caucus?

EDIT: Just saw on wikipedia that it's due for April 10. Will there be more shenanigans at the caucus or will they just try and get it finished?
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« Reply #122 on: March 25, 2012, 07:13:12 PM »

Got a map update? Any chance we could get these results posted on the main website?

That map doesn't change much. Only St. Louis County and Jackson County have voted since my last map and Paul won both. Also, I highly, highly doubt the caucus data will be hosted on the main site unless the MOGOP releases something official or I find something totaled.

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« Reply #123 on: March 26, 2012, 09:14:42 AM »

It looks like wikipedia's map has a few counties you don't:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Republican_primary_and_caucuses,_2012
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« Reply #124 on: March 26, 2012, 10:09:54 AM »


Most of their sources didn't have hard numbers unfortunately, but most of the stuff that did that I didn't have was really strong for Santorum, who is once again leading my tally.

New numbers:

Delegates (66/142):
495 Santorum
473 Paul
354 Romney
67 Uncommitted
11 Gingrich
(21 Unknown)
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