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DavidB.
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« on: March 22, 2017, 09:43:12 AM »

Being more inept than the PVV, truly an achievement. Tip of the hat, Progress.
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2017, 01:39:10 PM »
« Edited: August 14, 2017, 02:13:16 PM by DavidB. »

Ap 66%
Sp 59%
Frp 58%
H
MDG
KRF
V
R-SV tie

Would vote Frp anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 12:46:10 PM »

Are there any livestreams?
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DavidB.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 01:11:03 PM »

Works here too, thanks.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 01:13:16 PM »

Hoping for a Shy Tory effect, but it's really 50/50. Didn't think I would end up hoping that V reach the threshold.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2017, 01:58:26 PM »

27.3% voted early, which is an all-time high.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2017, 02:04:42 PM »

Will this still be the case if KRF and V end up below the threshold? I'm not sure.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2017, 02:07:56 PM »

Very happy with my prediction, if true ...
Very happy with the result, if true Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2017, 02:17:22 PM »

85-84 now... Ap seems to have done better and H worse...
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2017, 02:24:48 PM »

TV2 projection still has both KrF and V crossing 4% and the government bloc at 90.  I think it is down from 91 earlier. 
Official website has it at 85-84... I really hope the prognosis is still right.
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2017, 02:34:25 PM »

KrF is probably more likely to have voters who have turned up today, so based on that, I would also think they are the most likely to cross the threshold
Why? Just curious.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2017, 02:37:55 PM »

How a night like this makes a Catholic Dutch election junkie feel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R2vT8EM2ac


Cheesy Cheesy
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DavidB.
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2017, 02:38:49 PM »

Oslo: 28.5% Ap, 26.7% H.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2017, 02:43:16 PM »

Thank you, Diouf. With early voters I never know... it could theoretically also be the case that older, less mobile voters are more inclined to vote early.

Ap on track for its second-worst result ever (2001 was worse).
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2017, 02:48:01 PM »
« Edited: September 11, 2017, 02:52:49 PM by DavidB. »


How does that compare to past elections and which party is that good for?
Oslo is usually a bit of a bellwether. I would say this largely confirms the national view, maybe a bit better for Ap. It was 30.4%-29.8% in 2013, so in Oslo the gap between Ap and H has increased whereas nationally it should have decreased in favor of H, but that is very well possible if one assumes that the government's vote held up better in rural areas and outside Oslo (but not sure if that's true, it may not be true...). Don't have figures for the blocs in Oslo. Also don't know whether these are complete or partial results.

Venstre now in for the first time, and suddenly it's 90-79.
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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2017, 02:57:14 PM »

Trondheim Ap 33 vs. H 21.7, 2013 36.8-24.2.
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2017, 03:05:22 PM »

Huh, you're right.

These small changes are really weird to my Dutch eyes. And Ap being the Biggest Loser as opposition leaders is just embarrassing.

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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2017, 03:13:18 PM »

V even under the threshold in Bergen, Norway's second city: 3.9%. They got 6.9% there in 2013. If these are not partial results, I don't see how they're not finished.
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2017, 03:29:17 PM »

We are at a point where it entirely depends upon V. If they break 4%, the government has a majority. If they don't, the opposition has a incredibly weak 85 seat majority.
Yeah, this. And even if the government wins a majority, it will be a very thin one, completely depending on the V MPs, who know how supporting the previous government almost ruined their party. Will be difficult to keep together. Probably better if H do it alone for the sake of stability, but FrP won't be okay with that.
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2017, 03:42:17 PM »

V now at 4.1% according to NRK, but no idea where that comes from...
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2017, 04:36:02 PM »

Did Solberg already make a speech? Haven't been watching all the time.
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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2017, 04:44:46 PM »

Ap now dangerously close to not coming in first in votes and seats. 49-45 right now, according to NRK1.
Still a 2.2% difference, that's not going to change anymore. The exitpoll was dead-on for the blocs and most parties, except that it overestimated H and underestimated V (both completely within the MoE though), which will matter internally.
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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2017, 04:49:56 PM »

Only 65% counted in Oslo. I'm not completely positive that KrF will make it...
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DavidB.
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2017, 05:01:05 PM »

Thanks for this, Diouf.

Solberg now going to make a speech.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2017, 11:45:31 PM »
« Edited: September 11, 2017, 11:56:24 PM by DavidB. »

So 89-80 it is.

KrF say they will not provide outside support for a new H-FrP government and that there has to be a "center-right" government, which probably means they want to be in the government too (or FrP has to be out, or both). V say they will see. So H-FrP seems off the table. All other combinations that include H are still theoretically possible.
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