Justice Department to withhold grants from sanctuary cities

[SteveRogers]

Asking cities to comply with laws on the books is so radical. 

These cities aren't violating any laws on the books.

[SteveRogers]

I typically hate the term 'common sense policy' but I don't think it has ever made sense for cities to blatantly break federal law and expect to receive funding regardless. Good move by the administration. Sanctuary cities are wrong.

They aren't breaking any federal law.

[SteveRogers]

There's a difference between refusing to aid ICE and actively sabotaging. What several cities are doing under far-left leaders crosses the line into the latter. That's not states' rights, that's nullification.

Examples?

[SteveRogers]

There's a difference between refusing to aid ICE and actively sabotaging. What several cities are doing under far-left leaders crosses the line into the latter. That's not states' rights, that's nullification.

Examples?

Bill De Blasio refusing to honor warrants from ICE for known gang criminals and choosing to release them into the general public rather than ICE custody.

Source?

[SteveRogers]

There's a difference between refusing to aid ICE and actively sabotaging. What several cities are doing under far-left leaders crosses the line into the latter. That's not states' rights, that's nullification.

Examples?

Bill De Blasio refusing to honor warrants from ICE for known gang criminals and choosing to release them into the general public rather than ICE custody.

Source?

Probably some respectable and proven news organization with White House press credentials. Like Breitbart, Infowars and the Russian government RT.

It was literally a mainstream national news story.

http://pix11.com/2017/02/22/alleged-gang-members-prison-release-highlights-divide-between-ice-mayor-de-blasio/

Oh that's the one I assumed you were referring to. Yeah an ICE detainer request isn't a warrant. Big difference.

[SteveRogers]

I typically hate the term 'common sense policy' but I don't think it has ever made sense for cities to blatantly break federal law and expect to receive funding regardless. Good move by the administration. Sanctuary cities are wrong.

What laws are the cities "blatantly breaking?" Can you name one?

[SteveRogers]

There's a difference between refusing to aid ICE and actively sabotaging. What several cities are doing under far-left leaders crosses the line into the latter. That's not states' rights, that's nullification.

Examples?

Bill De Blasio refusing to honor warrants from ICE for known gang criminals and choosing to release them into the general public rather than ICE custody.

Source?

Probably some respectable and proven news organization with White House press credentials. Like Breitbart, Infowars and the Russian government RT.

It was literally a mainstream national news story.

http://pix11.com/2017/02/22/alleged-gang-members-prison-release-highlights-divide-between-ice-mayor-de-blasio/

Oh that's the one I assumed you were referring to. Yeah an ICE detainer request isn't a warrant. Big difference.

Procedural difference, maybe, but a city can't expect to actively sabotage and undermine a federal agency without financial retaliation.

No, not a "procedural difference"; a Constitutional difference. A letter from ICE doesn't amount to probable cause for anything. Absent a proper arrest warrant from the federal agency, state law enforcement has no jurisdiction to extend the period of someone's detention once their state case is dispensed with (and are in fact violating that person's constitutional rights if they do so). If ICE has actual probable cause to believe that a person is in this country illegally, and they know that person is in state jail for a couple days, then thats probably a good time to go get an arrest warrant. Every other law enforcement agency recognizes they need a warrant to go pick somebody up. Why is it so hard for ICE?