Was Hillary interested in the second spot?

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President Johnson:
After Obama became the presumptive nominee, did Hillary Clinton actually want to be vice president or was she disappointed for not being chosen? I'm not sure this is accurate, but once saw a documentary about her that claimed as Secretary of State her opinion of Joe Biden was just medicore. And she thought she would have been better on the job than him. Is this true?

Progressive Pessimist:
I think she definitely would have preferred to be Vice President in hindsight, she would have been better situated to win in 2016 if that was the case.

Redban:
In the book "Game Change," it was made clear that she wasn't interested. She still harbored some ill-will towards Obama for the rough primary, and she didn't think she'd feel comfortable working beneath him as a subordinate. She infact rejected his offer to be Secretary of State for that reason. She changed her mind at the last minute only when he said he needed someone to cover foreign affairs without supervision, as he'd be tied up with domestic issues for at least 2 years

On the other side: Obama and his people didn't want Hillary as a running mate either. They had the same concerns that she would struggle to be his subordinate, they were skeptical that voters would believe they were on the same page after a tough fight in the primary, and they knew Bill Clinton might cause issues too, creating the awkward feeling that there were 3 Presidents in the White House. Obama at one point wasn't feeling too thrilled with Biden, Bayh, and Kaine. So he did suggest to his advisers that they consider Hillary at one point. But his advisers immediately said no way.

TDAS04:
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on April 18, 2023, 05:42:35 PM

I think she definitely would have preferred to be Vice President in hindsight, she would have been better situated to win in 2016 if that was the case.



I agree she would have preferred being VP over Secretary of State, not sure how much that would have made a difference in 2016. She got the Democratic nomination easily in any case, being a sitting 2-term VP could have made her seem even more of an establishment candidate, though I don't know the outcome for sure.

Progressive Pessimist:
Quote from: TDAS04 on May 26, 2023, 10:12:26 AM

Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on April 18, 2023, 05:42:35 PM

I think she definitely would have preferred to be Vice President in hindsight, she would have been better situated to win in 2016 if that was the case.



I agree she would have preferred being VP over Secretary of State, not sure how much that would have made a difference in 2016. She got the Democratic nomination easily in any case, being a sitting 2-term VP could have made her seem even more of an establishment candidate, though I don't know the outcome for sure.



The way I see it, she would have been more separated from Benghazi and emailgate if she was Vice President. Without those two things 2016 probably would have gone a lot better. The GOP still would have tried something, but those two "scandals" really reinforced the untrustworthy image that was being pounded into the minds of the average American for 25 years.

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