SENATE BILL: The Gaining Excellent Teachers (GET) Act (Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor: NC Yankee since Simfan has departed from our midst and this looks like a big Fing deal, at least to me.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

As I said, this is was the next in the line and rather than let it get canned, I took custody of it (like I did with all the bills Jake introduced that were still in the queue when he left last summer). If someone else requested to take it over or just can't live another day unless they be made sponsor, arrangements shall be made as soon as I am made aware of such.

This bill obviously seeks to encourage more people from the top of their classes to go into education. Because pay hasn't kept up with that of a say a Doctor or a Lawyer, many of the top members of college classes are forgoing education for higher paying fields. This is creating a trend of a "academic performance stratification" that entails more and more teachers coming from lower and lower segments of their graduating class. This is obviously not an encouraging sign to say the least, and action should be taken of some kind. This measure is probably small in terms of its impact and I am willing to work with the Senate in crafting a more bold and aggressive effort, if they are feeling particulary audacious.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I agree we need to work towards getting more and better teachers. I'm not sure I like the idea of turning teachers into a totally different income tax class. I think it might be a better idea to make higher education more attractive and affordable for future teachers.

I see that you are feeling audacious, at least. And for once it doesn't involve something you eat or drink.

Now how would the mechanics of this work? My preference would be to provide funds to the regions to boost pay (of course you would have a no boost, no funds clause). Then how much does it cost and how do we pay for it?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Hostile
Status: A vote is now open on the above amendment, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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Sponsor Feedback: I don't know, she won't tell me what it is. But I got a funny feeling that it's me. It's worth believin - Translation: I will make a decision later when it it is time to consider this one.
Status: Pending completion of previous amendmnet.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nay, Because it goes too far!


Vote on Amendment 53:08 by Ben:

Aye (1): Ben
Nay (: Averroës Nix, Franzl, HagridOfTheDeep, jdb, JulioMadrid, NC Yankee, Roy Barnes 2010, and Spamage
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): Oakvale

With eight votes in the negative, the amendment has failed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Hostile in order to respect Simfan's desires since this was his I believe. I might still vote for it, depending the arguments
Status: A vote shall comence tomorrow. 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Hostile in order to respect Simfan's desires since this was his I believe. I might still vote for it, depending the arguments
Status: A vote is now open on the above amendment, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye, but reluctantly


Vote on the passage of Amendment 53:09 by Averroës Nix

Aye (6): Averroës Nix, Ben, Franzl, HagridOfTheDeep, jdb, JulioMadrid, and NC Yankee
Nay (0):
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (3): Oakvale, Roy Barnes 2010, and Spamage

The amendment has been adopted.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If there are no more areas of concern here, I can open a final vote.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I was hoping that we could get more accomplished in this bill. Sadly, audacity is a rare commodity these days.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If there are no more areas of concern here, I can open a final vote.

I still want to be audacious, and will present an amendment tomorrow...

Good, though considering your the source, I worry that your definition of audacity differs from mine. Care to hint as to what it is?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If there are no more areas of concern here, I can open a final vote.

I still want to be audacious, and will present an amendment tomorrow...

Good, though considering your the source, I worry that your definition of audacity differs from mine. Care to hint as to what it is?

I wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

As Steven Segal said in Under Siege, "The Captain doesn't like surprises and neither do I".

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Hostile until Section 4 is modified or removed
Status: Pending Response from Sponsor

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am working on an amendment to extend section three into the realm of super, special, awesome audacity.

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Sponsor Feedback: Friendly
Status: Senators have 24 hours to object.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am working on an amendment to extend section three into the realm of super, special, awesome audacity.

Nobody could dispute your audacity, Yankee....

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That basically the base idea, now the details. Funding, structure, name (could teach for Atlasia encompass this?) and the exact details of the financial incentive (is there a better incentive? what is it?) Thoughts?

I lost my first copy of this because of a browser issue.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It was an idea I got back in December from reading Bill Bradley's "The New American Story", that basically laid out a Job/Peace Corps like organization that took well performing graduates and sent these young, idealistic, new teachers into the worst schools as a means of trying to attract a more diverse student body to them.

So we could organize it somewhat along those lines, it being semi-independent or whatever. The funding part might thus be difficult. We should try to incorporate regional management of the funds and the DoIA into the funding structure as well.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Come on folks, lets here some ideas, and try to push this a little farther.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Franzl's amendment has passed by the way.


You people are of little help you know.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

How is this then? Now all that I am unsure about is the exact money.

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I may be wrong, but wouldn't $800 billion "unbalance" the budget?

That is why is says $800 million, not billion.

If the numbers are too much or too low then lets hammer them out and get this done.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am shocked that no one wants to talk abotu money.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Deemed to be at risk by whom?

a potential subclause 5: Each region shall compile a list of at-risk by compiling those institutions whose students perform in the bottom 25% of all public schools in the region and are in the top 25% for students dropping out of school, and then provide said list to the Deptarment of Internal Affairs as part of the process for applying for the funds.

We can make this a non-playable requirement since it would require quite a lot to actually provide this information, if it is even available.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Is that acceptable as a solution to tht problem? What about the money? Are my numbers close enough?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We are going no where fast. I contacted Simfan about his concern to see if the solution fixed ito ur not, but he hasn't responded I am going to go ahead and offer and this see if we can't shake this loose.

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Sponsor Feedback: Origination
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