Kamala Harris 2020 campaign megathread

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I’m seeing a lot of enthusiasm for Kamala on Twitter... from white liberals and media figures. But black people seem to be complaining about her “pro-cop record”. This is just acedotal evidence. Obama didn’t catch fire with the blacks till state’s started actually voting in 2008.

No surprise, but it's certainly valid criticism. I've been trying to say that Harris and Booker doing very well among the black vote is no guarantee, especially with how split this primary will be. We have to stop assuming that black candidates will win the black vote and then the nomination or get very close to it. And Twitter is not the best indication of support, but I'm sure you know that, lol. I also assume that the white liberals you're referring to mostly must've been HRC 2016 supporters which would make a lot of sense.

She and Booker might split the Black male vote. However, she would dominate the Black female vote. Black women vote in higher numbers and are slightly more Democratic leaning than Black men.

“Unlike Booker though, Harris will say no to dark money. Multiple outlets report that she plans on rejecting assistance from super PACs as well as corporate dollars.”

This is cool and all (I also already knew this) but why did you quote me lol?

[Joey1996]

Has Harris every actually done anything to connect with the black community?

They might consider her but Booker has been much more a pro black candidate.

She comes from San Francisco/Bay area which is mostly white and asian. Only a few black people are there. Meanwhile Booker comes from heavily black Newark so he has some idea on how to connect to black candidates

On criminal justice issues she was not a great candidate for the black community as she had many harsh policies as AG. Meanwhile Booker was one of the largest proponents of CJ reform working strongly with Rand Paul

Booker has also shown much more aptness to visit deep south states atm so this also helps him.

And no having an affair with Willie Brown does not count as connecting with the black community

She attended Howard University, which is one of the best HBCUs in the country. Anyways, Kamala is from Oakland.

Oakland has a sizable Black population. Also, The Black Panther Party started in Oakland.

She was born in Oakland, but raised in the very white Quebec by her single Indian mother. Sure she went to Howard, but her career as a prosecutor and her interracial marriage will get her a lot more questions about her connection to the black community than Barack Obama who was a former community organizer with a black family.

[Possiblymaybe]

Has Harris every actually done anything to connect with the black community?

They might consider her but Booker has been much more a pro black candidate.

She comes from San Francisco/Bay area which is mostly white and asian. Only a few black people are there. Meanwhile Booker comes from heavily black Newark so he has some idea on how to connect to black candidates

On criminal justice issues she was not a great candidate for the black community as she had many harsh policies as AG. Meanwhile Booker was one of the largest proponents of CJ reform working strongly with Rand Paul

Booker has also shown much more aptness to visit deep south states atm so this also helps him.

And no having an affair with Willie Brown does not count as connecting with the black community

She attended Howard University, which is one of the best HBCUs in the country. Anyways, Kamala is from Oakland.

Oakland has a sizable Black population. Also, The Black Panther Party started in Oakland.

She was born in Oakland, but raised in the very white Quebec by her single Indian mother. Sure she went to Howard, but her career as a prosecutor and her interracial marriage will get her a lot more questions about her connection to the black community than Barack Obama who was a former community organizer with a black family.

Not really. She grew up in Oakland in a black neighbourhood and only moved to Quebec as a teenager for a few years. Unlike Obama who really did grow up in a white family and in a predominately white community until he left for college. But yes he married a black woman and immersed himself in the black community as an adult. I’d argue it’s the other way around given that Obama’s first book deals with his alienation as the only mixed raced boy in a white community.Harris on the other hand was raised in the black community. And seems to not have experienced the sense of confusion and conflict Obama describes.
Also little tidbit her dad was a Marxist economist professor at Stanford.

[henster]

Has Harris every actually done anything to connect with the black community?

They might consider her but Booker has been much more a pro black candidate.

She comes from San Francisco/Bay area which is mostly white and asian. Only a few black people are there. Meanwhile Booker comes from heavily black Newark so he has some idea on how to connect to black candidates

On criminal justice issues she was not a great candidate for the black community as she had many harsh policies as AG. Meanwhile Booker was one of the largest proponents of CJ reform working strongly with Rand Paul

Booker has also shown much more aptness to visit deep south states atm so this also helps him.

And no having an affair with Willie Brown does not count as connecting with the black community

She attended Howard University, which is one of the best HBCUs in the country. Anyways, Kamala is from Oakland.

Oakland has a sizable Black population. Also, The Black Panther Party started in Oakland.

She was born in Oakland, but raised in the very white Quebec by her single Indian mother. Sure she went to Howard, but her career as a prosecutor and her interracial marriage will get her a lot more questions about her connection to the black community than Barack Obama who was a former community organizer with a black family.

I think she will have some identity issues, I've seen some tweets from people griping over whether she's more Indian than black. I definitely see her relying more on white progressives than blacks as her base and see Booker and possibly Biden if he runs doing much better in the South than her.

[DrScholl]

Has Harris every actually done anything to connect with the black community?

They might consider her but Booker has been much more a pro black candidate.

She comes from San Francisco/Bay area which is mostly white and asian. Only a few black people are there. Meanwhile Booker comes from heavily black Newark so he has some idea on how to connect to black candidates

On criminal justice issues she was not a great candidate for the black community as she had many harsh policies as AG. Meanwhile Booker was one of the largest proponents of CJ reform working strongly with Rand Paul

Booker has also shown much more aptness to visit deep south states atm so this also helps him.

And no having an affair with Willie Brown does not count as connecting with the black community

She attended Howard University, which is one of the best HBCUs in the country. Anyways, Kamala is from Oakland.

Oakland has a sizable Black population. Also, The Black Panther Party started in Oakland.

She was born in Oakland, but raised in the very white Quebec by her single Indian mother. Sure she went to Howard, but her career as a prosecutor and her interracial marriage will get her a lot more questions about her connection to the black community than Barack Obama who was a former community organizer with a black family.

If this is the sort of campaign "progressives" for Bernie or for whoever plan on running they are only going to make themselves look bad. Questioning who blackness is a recipe for helping her more than anything.

[Zaybay]

Has Harris every actually done anything to connect with the black community?

They might consider her but Booker has been much more a pro black candidate.

She comes from San Francisco/Bay area which is mostly white and asian. Only a few black people are there. Meanwhile Booker comes from heavily black Newark so he has some idea on how to connect to black candidates

On criminal justice issues she was not a great candidate for the black community as she had many harsh policies as AG. Meanwhile Booker was one of the largest proponents of CJ reform working strongly with Rand Paul

Booker has also shown much more aptness to visit deep south states atm so this also helps him.

And no having an affair with Willie Brown does not count as connecting with the black community

She attended Howard University, which is one of the best HBCUs in the country. Anyways, Kamala is from Oakland.

Oakland has a sizable Black population. Also, The Black Panther Party started in Oakland.

She was born in Oakland, but raised in the very white Quebec by her single Indian mother. Sure she went to Howard, but her career as a prosecutor and her interracial marriage will get her a lot more questions about her connection to the black community than Barack Obama who was a former community organizer with a black family.

If this is the sort of campaign "progressives" for Bernie or for whoever plan on running they are only going to make themselves look bad. Questioning who blackness is a recipe for helping her more than anything.

What the previous poster is trying to say is that, correctly if I may add, that Harris doesnt have many ties to the AA community, and hell, we dont know how well she will preform with African Americans, we are all just making assumptions that she will do well. We wont know until a year's time, but there isnt much to point towards Harris doing well with the demographic currently.

[Joey1996]

Has Harris every actually done anything to connect with the black community?

They might consider her but Booker has been much more a pro black candidate.

She comes from San Francisco/Bay area which is mostly white and asian. Only a few black people are there. Meanwhile Booker comes from heavily black Newark so he has some idea on how to connect to black candidates

On criminal justice issues she was not a great candidate for the black community as she had many harsh policies as AG. Meanwhile Booker was one of the largest proponents of CJ reform working strongly with Rand Paul

Booker has also shown much more aptness to visit deep south states atm so this also helps him.

And no having an affair with Willie Brown does not count as connecting with the black community

She attended Howard University, which is one of the best HBCUs in the country. Anyways, Kamala is from Oakland.

Oakland has a sizable Black population. Also, The Black Panther Party started in Oakland.

She was born in Oakland, but raised in the very white Quebec by her single Indian mother. Sure she went to Howard, but her career as a prosecutor and her interracial marriage will get her a lot more questions about her connection to the black community than Barack Obama who was a former community organizer with a black family.

If this is the sort of campaign "progressives" for Bernie or for whoever plan on running they are only going to make themselves look bad. Questioning who blackness is a recipe for helping her more than anything.

As a black man who lives with politically active black people I have a good read on the sort of questions that will be asked of Harris. I highly doubt the Sanders campaign, if there even is one, will be the ones questioning her identity.

[Possiblymaybe]

Has Harris every actually done anything to connect with the black community?

They might consider her but Booker has been much more a pro black candidate.

She comes from San Francisco/Bay area which is mostly white and asian. Only a few black people are there. Meanwhile Booker comes from heavily black Newark so he has some idea on how to connect to black candidates

On criminal justice issues she was not a great candidate for the black community as she had many harsh policies as AG. Meanwhile Booker was one of the largest proponents of CJ reform working strongly with Rand Paul

Booker has also shown much more aptness to visit deep south states atm so this also helps him.

And no having an affair with Willie Brown does not count as connecting with the black community

She attended Howard University, which is one of the best HBCUs in the country. Anyways, Kamala is from Oakland.

Oakland has a sizable Black population. Also, The Black Panther Party started in Oakland.

She was born in Oakland, but raised in the very white Quebec by her single Indian mother. Sure she went to Howard, but her career as a prosecutor and her interracial marriage will get her a lot more questions about her connection to the black community than Barack Obama who was a former community organizer with a black family.

If this is the sort of campaign "progressives" for Bernie or for whoever plan on running they are only going to make themselves look bad. Questioning who blackness is a recipe for helping her more than anything.

What the previous poster is trying to say is that, correctly if I may add, that Harris doesnt have many ties to the AA community, and hell, we dont know how well she will preform with African Americans, we are all just making assumptions that she will do well. We wont know until a year's time, but there isnt much to point towards Harris doing well with the demographic currently.

The thing is the previous poster is wrong. She didn’t grow up in Canada.. she grew up in Oakland. It’s also incredibly bizarre to claim a Howard graduate doesn’t have many ties to the black community.... btw she was literally there today, first stop as she launched her campaign...

[Landslide Lyndon]

I like how everyone crying about "Bernie Bros" are ignoring the overwhelming criticism of Harris online from black activists

Killer Mike and Cornell West?

[Joey1996]

Has Harris every actually done anything to connect with the black community?

They might consider her but Booker has been much more a pro black candidate.

She comes from San Francisco/Bay area which is mostly white and asian. Only a few black people are there. Meanwhile Booker comes from heavily black Newark so he has some idea on how to connect to black candidates

On criminal justice issues she was not a great candidate for the black community as she had many harsh policies as AG. Meanwhile Booker was one of the largest proponents of CJ reform working strongly with Rand Paul

Booker has also shown much more aptness to visit deep south states atm so this also helps him.

And no having an affair with Willie Brown does not count as connecting with the black community

She attended Howard University, which is one of the best HBCUs in the country. Anyways, Kamala is from Oakland.

Oakland has a sizable Black population. Also, The Black Panther Party started in Oakland.

She was born in Oakland, but raised in the very white Quebec by her single Indian mother. Sure she went to Howard, but her career as a prosecutor and her interracial marriage will get her a lot more questions about her connection to the black community than Barack Obama who was a former community organizer with a black family.

If this is the sort of campaign "progressives" for Bernie or for whoever plan on running they are only going to make themselves look bad. Questioning who blackness is a recipe for helping her more than anything.

What the previous poster is trying to say is that, correctly if I may add, that Harris doesnt have many ties to the AA community, and hell, we dont know how well she will preform with African Americans, we are all just making assumptions that she will do well. We wont know until a year's time, but there isnt much to point towards Harris doing well with the demographic currently.

The thing is the previous poster is wrong. She didn’t grow up in Canada.. she grew up in Oakland. It’s also incredibly bizarre to claim a Howard graduate doesn’t have many ties to the black community.... btw she was literally there today, first stop as she launched her campaign...

If she was raised in Canads or only went to highschool in Canada is less important than her record as a prosecutor, particularly her stances on 3 strikes, marijuana and truancy laws.

I like how everyone crying about "Bernie Bros" are ignoring the overwhelming criticism of Harris online from black activists

Killer Mike and Cornell West?

Type Kamala Harris in Twitter and see for yourself, or do black voices you dont agree with, like Killer Mike or Professor West not matter?

[LAKISYLVANIA]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/21/sen-kamala-harriss-policy-agenda-trillion-tax-plan-tax-credits-renters-bail-reform-medicare-for-all/?utm_term=.ebdd3178d789

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+ rental relief and her support for medicare-for-all.

Well, you can say a lot about her, but her platform seems left-wing to me on economic issues as well. I'd just loved to hear something about her environmental and climate proposals (that's what disappoints me).

[Progressive Pessimist]

I knew this thread would be frustrating. Can we give the woman a chance to actually campaign? Hell, she's having a town hall on CNN next week. It's ridiculous to already dismiss her as an "unelectable, neoliberal, SJW, identity politics-loving, coastal elitist, *insert other nebulous, arbitrary, buzzword of your choice here.*

I for one am definitely inclined to support her and Gillibrand the most, so far. I'm a bit torn between them, but I'll make up my mind as the primary campaign trudges on, I'm sure...or at least until (or if) Beto starts campaigning for the nomination.

[JA]

(No) Thank you, next.

[NeederNodder]

I knew this thread would be frustrating. Can we give the woman a chance to actually campaign? Hell, she's having a town hall on CNN next week. It's ridiculous to already dismiss her as an "unelectable, neoliberal, SJW, identity politics-loving, coastal elitist, *insert other nebulous, arbitrary, buzzword of your choice here.*

I for one am definitely inclined to support her and Gillibrand the most, so far. I'm a bit torn between them, but I'll make up my mind as the primary campaign trudges on, I'm sure...or at least until (or if) Beto starts campaigning for the nomination.

All of this (and I say this as a non-supporter).

[OSR stands with Israel]

I knew this thread would be frustrating. Can we give the woman a chance to actually campaign? Hell, she's having a town hall on CNN next week. It's ridiculous to already dismiss her as an "unelectable, neoliberal, SJW, identity politics-loving, coastal elitist, *insert other nebulous, arbitrary, buzzword of your choice here.*

I for one am definitely inclined to support her and Gillibrand the most, so far. I'm a bit torn between them, but I'll make up my mind as the primary campaign trudges on, I'm sure...or at least until (or if) Beto starts campaigning for the nomination.

She isnt neo liberal

[DrScholl]

I knew this thread would be frustrating. Can we give the woman a chance to actually campaign? Hell, she's having a town hall on CNN next week. It's ridiculous to already dismiss her as an "unelectable, neoliberal, SJW, identity politics-loving, coastal elitist, *insert other nebulous, arbitrary, buzzword of your choice here.*

I for one am definitely inclined to support her and Gillibrand the most, so far. I'm a bit torn between them, but I'll make up my mind as the primary campaign trudges on, I'm sure...or at least until (or if) Beto starts campaigning for the nomination.

A lot of people feel like they need to tear down other candidates in order for their candidate to win or feel as if their candidate is entitled to the nomination. Logic does not apply with those people.

[McGovernForPrez]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/21/sen-kamala-harriss-policy-agenda-trillion-tax-plan-tax-credits-renters-bail-reform-medicare-for-all/?utm_term=.ebdd3178d789

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+ rental relief and her support for medicare-for-all.

Well, you can say a lot about her, but her platform seems left-wing to me on economic issues as well. I'd just loved to hear something about her environmental and climate proposals (that's what disappoints me).

The rent relief act is one of the biggest reasons I'm unwilling to support her in the primary. It's terrible policy and would only serve to make rents more expensive overall. If she actually wanted to improve housing prices she'd try offering a grant to states in exchange for relaxing zoning policy or something.

[Zaybay]

I knew this thread would be frustrating. Can we give the woman a chance to actually campaign? Hell, she's having a town hall on CNN next week. It's ridiculous to already dismiss her as an "unelectable, neoliberal, SJW, identity politics-loving, coastal elitist, *insert other nebulous, arbitrary, buzzword of your choice here.*

I for one am definitely inclined to support her and Gillibrand the most, so far. I'm a bit torn between them, but I'll make up my mind as the primary campaign trudges on, I'm sure...or at least until (or if) Beto starts campaigning for the nomination.

A lot of people feel like they need to tear down other candidates in order for their candidate to win or feel as if their candidate is entitled to the nomination. Logic does not apply with those people.

The lack of self-awareness here is off the charts.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Um Hillary was considered less SJW than Obama in 2008 . The reason why we call Harris and Gillibrand social justice warriors is because they are social justice warriors.

No, they aren't, and it's a useless term anyway. If Gillibrand is a SJW for championing sexual assault victims for decades, for example, count me in.

And Klobachar, btw, is no less outspoken on social issues than them. She was very outspoken against Kavanaugh, for example.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Um Hillary was considered less SJW than Obama in 2008 . The reason why we call Harris and Gillibrand social justice warriors is because they are social justice warriors.

No, they aren't, and it's a useless term anyway. If Gillibrand is a SJW for championing sexual assault victims for decades, for example, count me in.

And Klobachar, btw, is no less outspoken on social issues than them. She was very outspoken against Kavanaugh, for example.

Klobuchar isn’t a SJW because she talks about those issues without offending his wittle fragile white ego. How dare someone acknowledge that a country that tried to exterminate Natives and brought people here as slaves have implicit biases against those said groups that linger today.

[DrScholl]

Kamala Harris would probably have one of the better chances, out of the candidates who have a serious shot at winning the Democratic nomination, of defeating Trump in the general election. However, she is not the most impressive or the best candidate who could be nominated. Her decision to announce her run on MLK Day was deliberate, part of her effort to become the "female Obama".

Criticism has been made of her record as California Attorney General, and she would continue the Democratic Party's trend towards social liberalism and identity politics, sacrificing what should be a more substantive focus on matters of policy and of governance. There's also the matter of how she got to her political position. Overall, my hope is that Democrats nominate someone other than her, someone who can appeal to the electorate and present the best counterargument against Trump.

What exactly does that mean? I have an idea, but I want to see if you are bold enough to actually sacrifice your "moderate" profile to say it.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Kamala is another Wall Street puppet, her and the psychopathic swine Booker went begging for executives support a few weeks back. The party of FDR is now the party of Coolidge.

Maybe so. But even if you're absolutely right, she still looks much better than Trump and his GOP.

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Here in Georgia with a bunch of organizers and party people on my social media (more of them white than black I might add) and this announcement by far has gotten the biggest and most fervent reaction. She’s sweeping the South.

Same story in CA — word I’m getting is that her organizer and donor support here is nearly unanimous. And CA + the South + black support elsewhere is the nomination.

She has a 43% approval rating. Just because the machine changed the primary to March just for her doesn't mean that she is well liked among ordinary Californians.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Um Hillary was considered less SJW than Obama in 2008 . The reason why we call Harris and Gillibrand social justice warriors is because they are social justice warriors.

No, they aren't, and it's a useless term anyway. If Gillibrand is a SJW for championing sexual assault victims for decades, for example, count me in.

And Klobachar, btw, is no less outspoken on social issues than them. She was very outspoken against Kavanaugh, for example.

Kamala Harris wants to abolish ICE and compared ICE to the KKK : https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/11/18/backlash-kamala-harris-ronald-vitiello-ice-questioning-cuomo-vpx.cnn

[America Needs R'hllor]

Kamala Harris would probably have one of the better chances, out of the candidates who have a serious shot at winning the Democratic nomination, of defeating Trump in the general election. However, she is not the most impressive or the best candidate who could be nominated. Her decision to announce her run on MLK Day was deliberate, part of her effort to become the "female Obama".

Criticism has been made of her record as California Attorney General, and she would continue the Democratic Party's trend towards social liberalism and identity politics, sacrificing what should be a more substantive focus on matters of policy and of governance. There's also the matter of how she got to her political position. Overall, my hope is that Democrats nominate someone other than her, someone who can appeal to the electorate and present the best counterargument against Trump.

What exactly does that mean? I have an idea, but I want to see if you are bold enough to actually sacrifice your "moderate" profile to say it.

You know what I'm talking about. She's done things that people like Hillary Clinton overlooked, to advance her own political career. Women who degrade themselves in such a manner are not due our respect.

You, sir, are trash.