What if Richard Lugar switched parties?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
May 18, 2024, 06:56:17 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  Election What-ifs?
  Past Election What-ifs (US) (Moderator: Dereich)
  What if Richard Lugar switched parties?
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: What if Richard Lugar switched parties?  (Read 370 times)
Left Wing
FalterinArc
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,534
United Kingdom


Political Matrix
E: -8.26, S: -6.09


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: December 21, 2020, 07:52:42 PM »

Let's imagine for a moment, that Richard Lugar feels the same way about the emerging tea party in 2009 that Arlen Specter did and decides to join him in switching parties. Does he survive the primary in 2012? If so, does he win the general? If he ran in 2018 for re-election if he did survive would he win again?
Logged
KaiserDave
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,640
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.81, S: -5.39

P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2020, 08:35:17 PM »

Wins 2012 primary, probably and goes on to win
Logged
Elcaspar
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,144
Denmark


Political Matrix
E: -7.61, S: -7.13

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2020, 08:53:53 PM »
« Edited: December 21, 2020, 09:13:27 PM by Elcaspar »

I feel like it would play out similarly to when Arlen Specter switched, as Lugar was more right-wing than Specter was after all. Is it possible he would win the primary? Certainly, but it probably wouldn't be a cakewalk if Specter is any indication.

What i find more interesting is if Lugar decided to run as an independent instead.

Logged
Unconditional Surrender Truman
Harry S Truman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,139


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2020, 09:13:08 PM »

If Donnelly beat Mourdock, Lugar would trounce him in a general election. The state party would clear the field for him to run.
Logged
Elcaspar
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,144
Denmark


Political Matrix
E: -7.61, S: -7.13

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2020, 09:33:18 PM »

If Donnelly beat Mourdock, Lugar would trounce him in a general election. The state party would clear the field for him to run.

Not to question your knowledge on Indiana politics as you are from there, but i am curious as how that would be any more successful than with Sestak? I guess the Indiana Democratic Party would be more receptive?
Logged
Unconditional Surrender Truman
Harry S Truman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,139


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2020, 09:49:16 PM »

If Donnelly beat Mourdock, Lugar would trounce him in a general election. The state party would clear the field for him to run.

Not to question your knowledge on Indiana politics as you are from there, but i am curious as how that would be any more successful than with Sestak? I guess the Indiana Democratic Party would be more receptive?
Indiana Democrats don't do contested primaries for statewide office. It's a phobia that dates back to 2008, when Jill Long-Thompson won a bitterly-fought primary race for the gubernatorial nomination and then got clobbered by Mitch Daniels in the general. Since then, Gregg in 2012 and 2016 and Woody this year faced no primary opponent, even as initially several candidates expressed interest. If Lugar had run, Zody would have had a frank conversation with Donnelly and he would have bowed out. IOTL, Lugar made a public appeal to Democrats to back him over Mourdock and I know at least one Democrat (my Mom) voted in the Republican primary that year for the express purpose of voting for him. So even if it had gone to a contested primary, and it wouldn't have, I expect Lugar would have won.
Logged
NewYorkExpress
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 24,817
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2020, 10:42:20 PM »

If the race goes to a contested primary, Lugar loses to Donnelly, who defeats Mourdock as IRL.

However, I think Donnelly is persuaded to either run for reelection, or if he has to run statewide for Governor.

Lugar defeats Mourdock, but he'd be vulnerable to a primary challenge again if he ran in 2018.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.213 seconds with 11 queries.