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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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« on: January 07, 2015, 11:42:09 AM »

Sad

RIP, great editors and others.

Hopefully they catch these suckers soon.

PS: Too bad I can't read what's on these cartoons. Would someone mind translating a few ?
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,195
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2015, 12:13:12 PM »

Thanks.

I'm also in favour that tomorrow, every major newspaper in Europe should print a joint Mohammed caricature/cartoon to show the fundies that freedom of speech cannot be gunned down.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,195
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2015, 12:23:44 PM »

terrible Sad

Thanks.

I'm also in favour that tomorrow, every major newspaper in Europe should print a joint Mohammed caricature/cartoon to show the fundies that freedom of speech cannot be gunned down.

seems unproductive. an al-Baghdadi cartoon, maybe.

That would of course work too.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2015, 12:38:59 PM »


I'm also in favour that tomorrow, every major newspaper in Europe should print a joint Mohammed caricature/cartoon to show the fundies that freedom of speech cannot be gunned down.

Seems unproductive. an al-Baghdadi cartoon, maybe.

It would not only be unproductive, but counterproductive because it would allow the terrorists to justify their actions as defending Islam. Al-Baghdadi on the other hand would be a fine solution. He is widely hated in the Islamic world as well.

It would be more counterproductive than that time George W. Bush said that America was on a "crusade."

I agree, it would certainly stir up the whole hornet's nest. But the question is, should we really move back on our hard-fought ideals of free spech, just because some fundies are hurt about their "religious feelings" ?
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2015, 02:28:54 AM »

One of the suspects - the youngest one - has surrendered to the police.
I hope he got roughed up nice and good.

Nah, that would be the American solution to these kinds of things.

The French version is this:



To catch them, give them a trial and jail them for the rest of their life.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2015, 03:31:23 AM »

"Le Monde" is currently reporting about a new shooting at a Paris subway station.

A few police officers hurt, gunman on the loose.

There's no indication yet if there's a connection between this and yesterdays events.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,195
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2015, 04:15:06 AM »

They're still looking for the two brothers. I really hope they catch them. Also no idea what to make of today's shooting. Hopefully there aren't more murderers on the loose.

Yepp. Where are they likely heading too ? Are they trying to cross the border(s) and head for Syria/Iraq ?
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2015, 04:31:45 AM »

"Blast hits restaurant near mosque in France's east."
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2015, 04:36:17 AM »

"Mosque in Le Mans attacked with grenades."
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2015, 06:43:51 AM »


Yeah that suxx, but it was predictable that not all people would remain calm and do nothing.

And Le Pen even wants to re-introduce the death penalty ...

As if these terrorists give a damn about the death penalty.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2015, 10:14:58 AM »

The next edition of Charlie Hebdo will come out next week and a million copies will be printed, the magazine’s lawyer has said. It’s weekly circulation is normally around 45,000.

That's the right thing to do. I saw Patrick Pelloux on TV a couple hours ago. He was devastated, lost most of his friends, but was determined to continue. "They can't have won" he said.

Good to hear.

When they continue, they should probably set up a security entrance system like they have it in the courts or in our parliament building, which you can't even enter if you have heavy weapons.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2015, 12:15:50 PM »

Back to the hunt:

Apparently, the 2 have now barricaded themselves in a house in Longpont, after the police cut off the highway they were driving on and deployed helicopters.

There's now a massive police and SWAT force heading to Longpont (or already is there):

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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2015, 12:24:27 PM »

Slight correction:

The latest info is that they have moved into the forest near Longpont.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2015, 12:30:54 PM »

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Good.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2015, 12:59:28 PM »

Police are now going from door to door in Corcy (which, according to Wikipedia, is rather small with 400 inhabitants):



The forest surrounding it and where they might hide is said to be "rather big".
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2015, 03:49:22 AM »

Are these the original 2 terrorists or someone else ?

Because I have read that the original 2 terrorists have come out of the forest today and hijacked a car ... ?
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2015, 03:53:16 AM »

OK.

Then the end is nigh for them. Hopefully they get the hostages out somehow safe (but previous situations like these make me not too hopeful).

Sad
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2015, 04:00:27 AM »

On a side-note, Dammartin-en-Goelle is only a mile away from Paris Charles De Gaulle Airport and latest reports say that the terrorists have got out of their car and into some house in this town.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2015, 04:04:05 AM »

On a side-note, Dammartin-en-Goelle is only a mile away from Paris Charles De Gaulle Airport and latest reports say that the terrorists have got out of their car and into some house in this town.

Better said they went into the offices of a construction company in an industrial area of Dammartin-en-Goelle.

A siege is now going on ...
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2015, 04:22:53 AM »

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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2015, 04:25:00 AM »

On a side-note, Dammartin-en-Goelle is only a mile away from Paris Charles De Gaulle Airport and latest reports say that the terrorists have got out of their car and into some house in this town.

Flights from and to CdG airport have now been re-routed to avoid flying over the besieged city.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2015, 08:47:08 AM »

Hmm, this is all really depressing.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2015, 09:19:16 AM »

Huh

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So, this means there have to be at least 2 hostages inside that print shop.

The owner of the print shop and the woman who owned the car that they hijacked.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2015, 09:33:49 AM »


The French interior ministry says nobody has died though.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,195
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2015, 11:37:45 AM »

Did Hollande give the order for the joint attack ?

Anyway, good to see this is over and the hostages unharmed.
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