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« on: February 02, 2017, 06:44:49 PM »


When they go low, only part of me goes high.

In all seriousness, this protest is ridiculous to put it mildly and there are so many other, more urgent things happening in this world these protestors could be investing their energy in.  These kinds of scenes don't deter Milo or make him want to rethink what he does.  You kidding?  You don't think he gets a massive hard-on every time he's able to rile up so many people at once, especially at this level?  Read the stuff he writes on Breitbart.  Listen to the talks he gives on YouTube.  It's plainly obvious he deliberately tries to be as offensive as possible for views and attention.  And he succeeds!  If you don't like Milo Yiannopolous, then don't listen to him.  Don't even acknowledge his existence.  Because were it not for juvenile displays like this, the man would be out of a job.

This is why politics sucks in this country.  This is how political discourse has reduced itself to a huge dickwaving contest.  Want to stop "normalizing" fascism or whatever?  Quit giving these idiots the attention they desire.  They're not worth your time and they're especially not worth the ensuing damage that's inflicted and that we all have pay the price for.
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 11:27:20 PM »

Are the liberals who are saying "Just let him speak, what's the big deal?" aware that Milo was planning on reading off a list of students that were undocumented immigrants?

He was?  How could he even have accessed that information?
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2017, 12:08:02 AM »

Are the liberals who are saying "Just let him speak, what's the big deal?" aware that Milo was planning on reading off a list of students that were undocumented immigrants?

It's true.



What an awful human being.

Okay.  Yeah.  Fck him.  Students can do whatever they want with him and I won't shed a tear.  Little Milo doesn't need a safe space.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2017, 02:16:49 AM »

Are the liberals who are saying "Just let him speak, what's the big deal?" aware that Milo was planning on reading off a list of students that were undocumented immigrants?

It's true.



What an awful human being.

Okay.  Yeah.  Fck him.  Students can do whatever they want with him and I won't shed a tear.  Little Milo doesn't need a safe space.

According to the right-wing and some Democrats here it would've been better to let him expose these students to potential danger, such as harassment, than prevent him from speaking because "muh free speech!" When you threaten people and seek to incite hatred against groups of people, you have no right to that kind of speech. You should be met with resistance, as he was, barred from the university by its administration, and criminally charged with hate speech.

He did no such thing. Disagreeing with someone is not threatening or inciting violence. But rioting, making verbal threats, and silencing dissent certainly meets those qualifications, which is what liberals do all the time.

I don't expect to get through to people like you. You can't seem to comprehend the simple idea that disagreeing with someone does not make them evil - or bigoted - or racist - or phobia this or phobia that. Regurgitate. Regurgitate.

It's stupid and old. It's the politics of ignorant, hateful, spiteful know nothings. The politics of the brain washed.



I'm going to use your logic.

-I deem you, your ideas, and your speech as hateful bigotry, racist and fascist. Because I said so. No debate about it. I'm morally right and you're evil.
-I deem you a NAZI™.
-Therefor, I have the right to silence and even assault you. I can punch you in the face.
-It's you're fault, really. YOU'RE the one who incited me with your hateful rhetoric.


Of course, in reality land, the American constitution protects the public from dangerous radicals like you.

No amount of yelling NAZI™ is going to change that.

You don't get to decide what is hateful and what is acceptable. You don't get to silence people. The constitution protects us against totalitarianism.

When you are threatening to out someone as an undocumented immigrant, you are going beyond just "disagreeing" with someone. It's personal at that point. And we are going to stand up as group for those people. If you get punched in the face, it is you own fault for being an asshole.

That's what crossed the line for me.  I've watched plenty of Milo's inane rants on YouTube (don't ask me why) and I haven't always agreed with the protestors, because I know that they're giving him the exact kind of attention he wants.  The man is a real-life troll and he admits to being such.  But deliberately targeting and making accusations against individual students is not acceptable and isn't something that can be defended under the guise of "free speech."
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2017, 02:30:32 AM »
« Edited: February 03, 2017, 03:57:28 PM by Torie »

Posting this again since it was deleted without explanation:

[Your image entails a personal attack on a poster, and thus is against the TOS. Period.] Torie

Also, whoever thinks that this will have any effect on the next election needs to step out of their little bubble and quit being such a hack.
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2017, 04:58:16 AM »

The first time I heard about Milo was, I think, a year and a half ago when I was talking to a right-leaning friend of mine who said he read his stuff on Breitbart.  This was back when Gamergate was a huge thing (something I never particularly cared about because I'm not a big gamer and internet dramas bore the sht out of me) and Milo hadn't yet devoted his platform to trolling purposes.  Most of Breitbart's content was also fairly tame at this time, IIRC.  Then Trump jumped into the scene and grabbed Breitbart and Milo by their proverbial pussies.

And now here we are.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2017, 02:20:10 PM »

When you are threatening to out someone as an undocumented immigrant, you are going beyond just "disagreeing" with someone. It's personal at that point. And we are going to stand up as group for those people. If you get punched in the face, it is you own fault for being an asshole.

So the left is officially embracing the principle of "snitches get stitches"? Because your comment totally blames the victims of crime for coming forward as witnesses to a separate crime. Im not saying tattling isnt a dick move and of course a false id might be subject to a slander suit ... but you are acting as though revealing truthful information relevant to a crime is somehow worthy of violent repression. That is disgusting. I smoke weed and I would never endorse violence against some jerk who rats out potheads to the police. Criminals assume the risk of being caught and just because the "fuk borders" crowd hates the idea that not everyone can come and go as they please doesn't mean its not still a crime.

Seriously. Reflect on what you are pushing. By your logic rightwing militias are justified in harassing those who rat on them for gun violations. Drug dealers can take out police snitches.  Pimps can beat up prostitutes who go to the police for help. Casually dismissing violence used to silence the truth is pretty damn bad.

This goes beyond snitching on Milo's part, though.  If that's all he wanted to do, he could have easily gone to the immigration authorities and reported them in private.  (This isn't something I would do as long as these people were otherwise peaceful, law-abiding citizens who might not have even entered this country on their own accord, but that's a different discussion.)  Milo specifically wanted to use his platform to target individuals and open them up to harassment and social ostracization.  That doesn't justify violence, per se, and it certainly doesn't justify destroying property or setting fires like some of these protestors were doing, but attempting to put other people's lives or reputations in danger makes you a fair target for retaliation especially by those whom you seek to destroy.

And Milo wasn't a "victim" even if the people he intended to rat on were genuinely 'guilty.'  He's a British guy with a funny hairdo who gains followers just from being a bully.  And that of course alone should be enough to question the man's own probity.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2017, 02:51:15 PM »

When you are threatening to out someone as an undocumented immigrant, you are going beyond just "disagreeing" with someone. It's personal at that point. And we are going to stand up as group for those people. If you get punched in the face, it is you own fault for being an asshole.

So the left is officially embracing the principle of "snitches get stitches"? Because your comment totally blames the victims of crime for coming forward as witnesses to a separate crime. Im not saying tattling isnt a dick move and of course a false id might be subject to a slander suit ... but you are acting as though revealing truthful information relevant to a crime is somehow worthy of violent repression. That is disgusting. I smoke weed and I would never endorse violence against some jerk who rats out potheads to the police. Criminals assume the risk of being caught and just because the "fuk borders" crowd hates the idea that not everyone can come and go as they please doesn't mean its not still a crime.

Seriously. Reflect on what you are pushing. By your logic rightwing militias are justified in harassing those who rat on them for gun violations. Drug dealers can take out police snitches.  Pimps can beat up prostitutes who go to the police for help. Casually dismissing violence used to silence the truth is pretty damn bad.

This goes beyond snitching on Milo's part, though.  If that's all he wanted to do, he could have easily gone to the immigration authorities and reported them in private.  (This isn't something I would do as long as these people were otherwise peaceful, law-abiding citizens who might not have even entered this country on their own accord, but that's a different discussion.)  Milo specifically wanted to use his platform to target individuals and open them up to harassment and social ostracization.  That doesn't justify violence, per se, and it certainly doesn't justify destroying property or setting fires like some of these protestors were doing, but attempting to put other people's lives or reputations in danger makes you a fair target for retaliation especially by those whom you seek to destroy.

And Milo wasn't a "victim" even if the people he intended to rat on were genuinely 'guilty.'  He's a British guy with a funny hairdo who gains followers just from being a bully.  And that of course alone should be enough to question the man's own probity.

I also wonder if he wouldn't have "outed" people who weren't even here illegally. It would probably just be an enemies hit list of the right wing/alt-right at Berkeley.

That's probably the case.  Milo's not even American and I doubt he would have any reliable information pertaining to something like this aside from hearsay.  Either way, this is not someone who's deserving of our sympathy, irrespective of how the protestors behaved.
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