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« on: April 18, 2024, 02:45:20 PM »

As the title says, what are the most anti Trump Republican states after Utah?
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2024, 03:03:36 PM »

Vermont?
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2024, 04:47:55 PM »

Judging purely by the 2024 primaries, it'd appear to be South Carolina which is pretty hilarious. Haley must have gotten a strong home state bounce.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2024, 09:26:21 PM »

Those states that trended left the most between 2012 and 2020.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2024, 10:26:12 PM »

Alaska and Kansas?
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2024, 12:48:30 AM »

Texas?
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2024, 03:43:08 AM »

Historycally that would be New England and Mid-Atlantic states, which, in 1950th - 1970th, supplied most of moderate (sometimes - even liberal) Senate and House Republican members. But  Republican parties of these states swung heavily right of late, as most moderates and liberals see no sense to go into Republican party, when they can buid much better career in Democratic one.  So - Republican parties of these states consist mostly of "diehard conservatives, who have nowhere else to go" right now.

As a result - Republican, and, generally conservative, states come to fore: Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Kansas, and so on...
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2024, 08:24:44 AM »

Nebraska’s up there.
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2024, 08:31:23 PM »

It would be Alaska and Kansas. Maybe Iowa. (Or maybe not, Iowa did swing pretty hard toward him in 2016, but its political culture is distinct still. I've compared it to Utah political culture before, and I still will.)
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2024, 10:19:39 PM »

Georgia has to be up there.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2024, 05:15:17 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2024, 05:20:17 PM by Agonized-Statism »

The most alienated elements in the party have been big business (Republican lawmakers, accusing CEOs of "wokeness", have become less dependent on corporate PAC money than any time in the past three decades) and the military (a little less clear as they also haven't liked progressives in the Democratic Party, but the progressive movement is getting co-opted and neo-Cold War Liberals like Fetterman are becoming their talking heads). This has clearly been playing out in places dependent on the defense industry- Southern California, Arizona, Georgia, Virginia, but really any Sun Belt suburb. This is why I expect the "Silicon Desert" to become a solidly Democratic constituency in the long run, and the clear answer in a few decades' time will be Arizona.
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2024, 05:38:54 PM »


Georgia isn't exactly a "Republican state" anymore. Depending how you define it.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2024, 12:47:26 PM »


Georgia isn't exactly a "Republican state" anymore. Depending how you define it.

On balance it is still more Republican leaning than Democrat.
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2024, 11:05:32 AM »

1, VT is not a Republican state.
2, VT Republican is very Trumpy.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2024, 11:11:32 AM »

1, VT is not a Republican state.
2, VT Republican is very Trumpy.

Haley won the primary. While that might've been because of Dems crossing over, I think that safely rules out the VT GOP from being very Trumpy.
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2024, 11:18:36 AM »

Georgia? it's a republican state so opposed to Trump it voted for his opponent and kicked out its two pro-Trump Senators in one fell swoop
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2024, 10:10:02 PM »

1, VT is not a Republican state.
2, VT Republican is very Trumpy.

Haley won the primary. While that might've been because of Dems crossing over, I think that safely rules out the VT GOP from being very Trumpy.

A lot of Dems may have crossed over, but the VT GOP is still among the least Trumpy.
I heard there were VT towns that voted for Trump in 2020, and Haley in the 2024 primary.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2024, 12:55:44 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2024, 12:56:58 PM »


Georgia isn't exactly a "Republican state" anymore. Depending how you define it.

Georgia has only become less of a Republican state because of how anti-Trump it is!  The GOP has still controlled GA-Gov and the State Legislature for >20 years.
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2024, 06:42:51 PM »

NE, KS, and AK. If it counts as a red state (probably doesn't), then AZ too.


Georgia isn't exactly a "Republican state" anymore. Depending how you define it.

Georgia has only become less of a Republican state because of how anti-Trump it is!  The GOP has still controlled GA-Gov and the State Legislature for >20 years.

Not true. Trends in Atlanta had already shifted the state noticeably leftward prior to Trump's entry to the national stage, from 2004 to 2008/2012 (Bush+17 to McCain+5 and Romney+7). Even without Trump GA would still have become fairly competitive by 2028 or 2032. The Trump factor merely accelerated the leftward shift.

Consider the fact that Trump's not the only GOPer to have lost in GA - Democrats have won the three most recent Senate elections as well.

The only reasonable conclusion regarding GA's politics now is that it's a purple state - possibly with the caveat that it has an R bias in state-level elections and D bias in federal elections (using the last 2 election cycles as a sample).
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2024, 10:59:26 PM »

NE, KS, and AK. If it counts as a red state (probably doesn't), then AZ too.


Georgia isn't exactly a "Republican state" anymore. Depending how you define it.

Georgia has only become less of a Republican state because of how anti-Trump it is!  The GOP has still controlled GA-Gov and the State Legislature for >20 years.

Not true. Trends in Atlanta had already shifted the state noticeably leftward prior to Trump's entry to the national stage, from 2004 to 2008/2012 (Bush+17 to McCain+5 and Romney+7). Even without Trump GA would still have become fairly competitive by 2028 or 2032. The Trump factor merely accelerated the leftward shift.

Consider the fact that Trump's not the only GOPer to have lost in GA - Democrats have won the three most recent Senate elections as well.

The only reasonable conclusion regarding GA's politics now is that it's a purple state - possibly with the caveat that it has an R bias in state-level elections and D bias in federal elections (using the last 2 election cycles as a sample).


Mostly disagree with the D bias part. The 2021 runoff losses were directly attributed to Stop the Steal turnout drops in places like MTG's district. That election occurred at the peak of those sentiments literally the day before January 6 and super MAGA people didn't want to vote in what they thought was a rigged election. The suburbs swung back by enough for a Loeffler and Perdue win.

Herschel Walker is a unique case because he is a demigod to UGA fans but his political identity was tied to trump and he wouldn't have run if Trump hadn't told him to. All else being equal I think Any R who isn't seen as super MAGA would be favored against Generic D in a GA Senate race
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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2024, 09:41:32 PM »

Kansas.
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