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Question: Only check ones you think are immoral
#1
Abortion
 
#2
Death penalty
 
#3
Doctor-assisted suicide
 
#4
Sex before marriage
 
#5
Divorce
 
#6
Polygamy
 
#7
Pornography
 
#8
Birth control
 
#9
Teenage sex
 
#10
Homosexuality
 
#11
Gambling
 
#12
Unwed birth
 
#13
Stem cell research
 
#14
Suicide (in general)
 
#15
Medical testing animals
 
#16
Wearing clothes w/animal fur
 
#17
Cloning animals
 
#18
Cloning humans
 
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« on: March 08, 2014, 03:54:00 PM »
« edited: March 08, 2014, 04:09:22 PM by Speaker Scott »

My personal judgments.  Any item included in multiple categories was done intentionally.

Completely immoral, policy should dictate accordingly
Death penalty

Cloning humans

Circumstantial, policy may or may not dictate depending on the issue
Cloning animals

Doctor-assisted suicide

Teenage sex (Not sure why this wouldn't be incorporated with 'sex before marriage.')

Sex before marriage

Gambling

Wearing clothes w/animal fur

Medical testing animals

Pornography (I struggle to deem this moral or immoral.  I can't rationalize why it's wrong, but at the same time I'm not convinced that it's something compatible with my beliefs.  That being said, I think sex work should be legal provided that no coercion is involved and strict health/worker standards are set.)

Personally immoral
Abortion (if it is used as a form of birth control or is sex-selective, but the latter situation influences a woman's decision how often?  .0001% of the time?)

Suicide for non-medical reasons

Divorce (in most cases, not considering domestic abuse cases or honest efforts to rebuild a marriage)

Polygamy

Sex before marriage

Teenage sex (Not sure why this wouldn't be incorporated with 'sex before marriage.')

Amoral
Birth control

Homosexuality

Unwed births (I find nothing immoral about bringing a child into this world as long as it's cared for and given a good life, and that's why I refuse to label it either way.)

Stem cell research



I'm not going to bother justifying my decisions beyond what I wrote because, for the most part, I apply these morals to my life and my life only.  I leave most things that I oppose or am hesitant about for purely religious reasons to my faith and my God.  I've met or have known at least one person who's done most of these things, but I haven't condemned them for it nor do I intend to start.  In fact, I only bother sharing my opinion if it is asked for.

Just to get that out of the way. Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2014, 10:24:01 PM »
« Edited: March 13, 2014, 10:27:50 PM by Speaker Scott »

That's not really my point.  If you are going to ask another person to ruin their own life, there is a burden of proof on you.  For most people, "my interpretation of the Bible says so" is just a silly argument.  Would you at least admit, taking the Bible out of it, there's nothing wrong with homosexuality? 

Yes, but I would admit that for every facet of my morality from shoplifting on up through murder. If there was no God I'd be a moral nihilist.

I don't think bedstuy was asking you about God, in this context.  I think what he meant was, if there was no Bible, would you still consider homosexuality wrong?  After all, you don't have to believe what the Bible says, let alone God, to consider shoplifting and murder morally wrong.  The two are not inseparable.

The way I see it, you have to have some kind of moral compass independent from Scripture to believe that what Scripture - the Scripture that lays the foundation for Judeo Christian belief - says, is the key to living a moral life.  Otherwise, you're just following words on a page.  (I know that approach isn't compatible with Calvinist theology, but that, of course, is why I could never accept Calvinist teachings...)
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2014, 05:23:25 PM »

Also, I should add that it's bad theology to attribute all sin to violation of the First Commandment.  Sin simply means "to miss the mark."  When a person commits a felony, for example, they are not charged for "putting themselves ahead of the state;" they are charged for the consequences of breaking that law and causing hardships for the person or people affected by it.  Even the Ten Commandments are appropriately divided into two categories: those which apply to God and those which apply to Man, and Jesus' summation of the entire law demonstrates a clear distinction, as well (Matthew 22:37-40).

But as others have said, if you base everything you think is moral and immoral on what a book tells you and don't care why those laws are there and proclaim that you'd reject all morality if you didn't believe in a God, you're either seriously f**ked up in the head or you need to reevaluate yourself on, well, everything.  I don't know what else to tell you.

This is why so many people are saying, "F**k it," when it comes to religion.
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