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Question: Which of the following countries would you support bringing into the European Union, the next time it decides to embark on a new era of expansion?
#1
Croatia
 
#2
Bosnia
 
#3
Montenegro
 
#4
Serbia
 
#5
Kosovo
 
#6
Macedonia
 
#7
Turkey
 
#8
Iceland
 
#9
Ukraine
 
#10
Moldova
 
#11
Georgia
 
#12
Armenia
 
#13
Azerbaijan
 
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« on: December 23, 2009, 06:09:33 AM »

All except for Turkey and Azerbaijan, neither of which is really in Europe.
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2009, 08:38:29 AM »

All except for Turkey and Azerbaijan, neither of which is really in Europe.

Are Georgia and Armenia in Europe?

culturally, yes. Geographically, no. Azerbaijan is not in Europe either culturally or geographically. The same would be true of Turkey but for Istanbul and Turkish Thrace. Also, Azerbaijan is not a democracy. This has nothing to do with being in Europe, but much to do with being in the EU.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2009, 09:36:06 AM »

I assume so - not that that is a definition with a validity in excess of 0. Elseways Eritrea and parts of Kerala are European, while Bosnia is not. Which is obviously utterly absurd. These are remnants of Asian Christianity - as anybody with an inkling of the history of the Middle East would find obvious. (Much less obvious, because the territory in between was eventually Christianized at a surprisingly late date, because we've grown used to thinking of it as an unequivocal part of Europe for 300 years and more, and anyways it's had *some* ties to Europe long before, is that the same could historically be claimed for Russia.)

That's partly it but not entirely. I was speaking more about cultural ties, which came about largely because of Christianity, but encompass much more than it. And actually Armenia was the first country to officially embrace Christianity.
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