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Colin
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« on: July 18, 2007, 03:52:28 PM »

Every other time someone has posted this its been a false alarm, so I wont be getting my hopes up just yet.
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Colin
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2007, 11:14:23 AM »

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

Well they're not conservative. They're mostly free-market liberals with an admixture of some moderate defectors from the left. I haven't really seen anything that would tell me that they were socially conservative.
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Colin
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2007, 04:30:16 PM »

Am I right in thinking that 'Left and Democracy' is the social-democratic former communist party?

Well it's a coalition led by the Democratic Left Alliance that includes about 5 different left and centre-left groups.
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Colin
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 11:30:36 AM »

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

Well they're not conservative. They're mostly free-market liberals with an admixture of some moderate defectors from the left. I haven't really seen anything that would tell me that they were socially conservative.

Are you serious!? They are the most socially conservative government in all of Europe, not counting Belarus, which is a freak exception at this point.

I was talking about Civic Platform which you labeled as conservative. League of Polish Families isn't conservative as well, it's an agrarian populist party with a twist of xenophobia.
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Colin
ColinW
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E: 3.87, S: -6.09

« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 07:10:27 PM »

The sooner those twin scumbags are out of power the better. Civic Platform may be conservative too, but of a saner variety, a win for them would be great news. I don't see a difference between Law and Justice and the League of Polish Families. They are the most horrible parties in Europe at the moment.

Well they're not conservative. They're mostly free-market liberals with an admixture of some moderate defectors from the left. I haven't really seen anything that would tell me that they were socially conservative.

Are you serious!? They are the most socially conservative government in all of Europe, not counting Belarus, which is a freak exception at this point.

I was talking about Civic Platform which you labeled as conservative. League of Polish Families isn't conservative as well, it's an agrarian populist party with a twist of xenophobia.

Civic Platform is center-right, like the CDU (or maybe FDP?) in Germany. They are economic conservatives, not social ones. Civic Platform would be a big improvement over the current government, because they wouldn't be intentionally alienating all of Europe by their sheer stupidity (i.e. Law and Justice).

They're not Christian Democrats, most christian democrats in Poland vote PiS not PO, They have more in common, in my mind, with VVD in the Netherlands or Venestre in Denmark. Centre-right liberals not conservatives.

No, that would be Self Defense. League of Polish Families are the extreme right lunatics (with a twist of anti-semitism).

Ah, thanks for that I always get the two mixed up.

CUBBY: The difference is Self Defence is an agrarian populist party with a xenophobic twist and is mostly focused on rural issues, farmers rights, and social conservatives. League of Polish Families is far-right xenophobic racist party akin to Front National or those neo-Nazi parties in Germany.
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