Dubya to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming

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Dallas News

I am at a loss for words.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

I'm not.

We are talking about this man, remember?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

He's always been an odd duck and methinks he will only get odder.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The reason why they want to obviously is insane but there is nothing wrong with Jews converting to Christianity. I don't view it as any different as some raised irreligious doing so or converting from one Christian denom to another. Remember to say otherwise is actually infringing on the freedom of those from a Jewish background ("sure other people have the right to convert to what they want but you don't. Your situation is special.")

None of that makes this group or Bush any less odious of course.

[Dave from Michigan]

There is this a person at our church and bible study who is Jewish and Christian her parents also attend the church. I checked she likes Jews for Jesus on Facebook and I believe is somewhat involved in converting them.

[pbrower2a]

He's always been an odd duck and methinks he will only get odder.

I thought that he had premature senility when he was President.

[H. Ross Peron]

Interesting. I'm curious as to what he has to say.

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Amazing that this lunatic once had a 91% approval rating.

[H. Ross Peron]

Amazing that this lunatic once had a 91% approval rating.

I think Bush was a bad President but its absurd to call him a "lunatic" for this reason.

[Dave from Michigan]

I would like to meet a president preferably the current one but any former one would still be cool. I should try to meet Bush, I have no idea how, it is probably impossible.

[Napoleon]

Amazing that this lunatic once had a 91% approval rating.

I think Bush was a President but its absurd to call him a "lunatic" for this reason.

There's thousands of reasons why we think he is a lunatic

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I know I've gotten into this debate arguing against the politically correct position many times, but I will point out that anyone who is simply on principle opposed to any conversion of Jews to Christianity is basically going to be entirely hostile to Christianity in general since converted Jews are exactly who started the first Christian communities and churches and spread it. There would be no Christian churches today without converted Jews. That's why comments like the rabbi's come across as a bit absurd to me. Now the crazy pre-dispensationalism stuff on the other hand and the reasons why people like say John Hagee support Israel and what they really believe the plan is for Jews and why groups like this target them is a whole other matter, but that's not necessarily what they're being attacked over.

I would be interested in seeing the rabbi quoted's response if asked what should a church do if a person from a Jewish background got involved, completing all the requirements for conversion if there were any and asked to be baptized and converted, and if the church should say "No, you're Jewish so that's a special case, we won't allow you to convert." Because that's flat out discrimination and actually anti-Semitic in itself (see Martin Luther's anti-Semitic writings that essentially promoted that...well not exactly just politely declining.) So essentially that's why I don't hold to a hierarchy of groups in acceptability to proselytize to or hold that it's ever wrong for someone to convert to another group simply because of what they were born into, the only criteria I'd ever use is the group incoming to (for example I would never approve of anyone converting to Scientology whether they were raised Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Buddhist, irreligious or whatever, but that's simply because of my opinion of Scientology and is completely irrelevant to whatever group they came from. On the other hand it's tough to think of a scenario where I'd disapprove of someone converting to a liberal leaning Christian church, unless it was for entryist purposes.)

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

He's an evangelical Methodist; how is this at all news?

[Brittain33]

He's an evangelical Methodist; how is this at all news?

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of evangelical Methodists have not made keynote speeches for this particular group.

[TNF]

Amazing that this lunatic once had a 91% approval rating.

I think Bush was a bad President but its absurd to call him a "lunatic" for this reason.

no it isn't

people seem to forget how dangerous and terrible this man was.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Dub has kept to a lower profile than almost any past President......it makes no sense to do something to draw attention to himself, like this might.

And Dub was hardly dangerous. (terrible in policies?  Yeah, sometimes)

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Dub has kept to a lower profile than almost any past President......it makes no sense to do something to draw attention to himself, like this might.

And Dub was hardly dangerous. (terrible in policies?  Yeah, sometimes)

Well he established a pretty terrifying precedent of the state being able to hold you indefinitely without trial and being able to torture you. I'd say that's kind of dangerous.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Dub has kept to a lower profile than almost any past President......it makes no sense to do something to draw attention to himself, like this might.

And Dub was hardly dangerous. (terrible in policies?  Yeah, sometimes)

Well he established a pretty terrifying precedent of the state being able to hold you indefinitely without trial and being able to torture you. I'd say that's kind of dangerous.

Yes, the American population there was so high, and Obama has rid us of Guantanemo Bay.........oops.

Back to Dub doing this event....it's just weird, and probably more to the story than we know.

[barfbag]

The best part about this is how upset Democrats are getting over the spread of Christianity. This is actually pretty funny. Who cares what Rabbi Saperstein thinks?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Dub has kept to a lower profile than almost any past President......it makes no sense to do something to draw attention to himself, like this might.

And Dub was hardly dangerous. (terrible in policies?  Yeah, sometimes)

Well he established a pretty terrifying precedent of the state being able to hold you indefinitely without trial and being able to torture you. I'd say that's kind of dangerous.

Who is "you"?