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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« on: June 11, 2018, 09:28:21 PM »

She seems pretty awesome. Too bad she won't win.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2018, 08:43:37 AM »

Remind me again, why are we supposed to suddenly hate Crowley?

He's a bland machine hack who voted for the Bush tax cuts and Iraq War. Comparable to Feinstein. Not the worst Democrat in the House but no reason to not support a far more progressive challenger over him.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,269
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 10:10:09 AM »

Remind me again, why are we supposed to suddenly hate Crowley?

He's a bland machine hack who voted for the Bush tax cuts and Iraq War. Comparable to Feinstein. Not the worst Democrat in the House but no reason to not support a far more progressive challenger over him.

Yeah, but the optics of a member of leadership losing their primary would be awful.

Eric Cantor losing was utterly disastrous for the Republicans in 2014 after all. Roll Eyes
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,269
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2018, 11:30:05 AM »

Comparing Crowley to Capuano is absurd.

Capuano is a long time accomplished progressive being challenged by a standard urban machine hack who's impatient about waiting for him to retire and has absolutely nothing to offer beyond him. Crowley meanwhile is the urban machine hack, is not notably outstanding progressive and is being challenged by an insurgent progressive.

Supporting Capuano's challenger based on her race and gender is absolutely ridiculous, as woupd be supporting Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez because of that, but there are plenty of far more valid reasons to support her.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2018, 01:54:46 PM »

She's running to his left on all the issues.
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2018, 02:03:39 PM »

Claiming only Crowley can stop Hoyer is absurd.

Hoyer is even older than Pelosi. Even if we assume Pelosi steps down as House Democratic leader after next term, he'll already be 81. Even as geriatric as the House Democratic leadership tends to be, it's kind of hard to make a case that he's the best successor or the fresh blood needed. Especially with the high turnover in the House that's developed of late, and especially if we elect more progressives (like ACO.) There won't be much loyalty to him.

I agree Tim Ryan isn't ideal, but it won't be a coronation for him either. There will definitely be some ambitious House members who want to take a stab at it once Pelosi finally steps down.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,269
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2018, 12:34:55 AM »

Why pretend that Ro Khanna is anything other than a glorified, power-hungry, Silicon Valley hack?

I ask that question every time I see him being praised as some sort of progressive hero.

I mean to be fair the TYT people are all so dumb they allowed a pre-alt right DAVE RUBIN in their clique.

And still allow Michael Tracey.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,269
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2018, 07:15:33 AM »

Why pretend that Ro Khanna is anything other than a glorified, power-hungry, Silicon Valley hack?

I ask that question every time I see him being praised as some sort of progressive hero.

I mean to be fair the TYT people are all so dumb they allowed a pre-alt right DAVE RUBIN in their clique.

And he still isn't alt-right, but, please, continue to show your ignorance on a ton of different topics. It is amusing.
He still said he'd probably vote for Trump in 2020.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,269
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2018, 04:56:49 PM »

So what's Nicolas Maduro if not a socialist?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2018, 10:21:52 AM »


Yeah she lived in wealth and privilege in this spacious, luxurious abode.

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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,269
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2018, 12:13:14 AM »

Bill Pascrell, Alcee Hastings, and Lacy Clay sounds like a great list of Congressmen who need to be primaried.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,269
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2018, 05:34:14 PM »

She was correct. There is no one head of the Democratic Party.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,269
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2018, 09:02:56 PM »

Her reply to Ben Shapiro was too perfect.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,269
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2018, 07:01:11 AM »

She was right though. There is no head of the Democratic Party. The US doesn't have a parliamentary with a Leader of the Opposition.
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